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Old 03-29-2008, 01:58 PM
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Re: Did Baptism Ever Wash Away Sins?

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Tell you what I can't reconcile .... seriously.

One breath:



Next breath:



Who has sought to extinguish who?
Oh lets be very clear, after you proved to be no different than those who sought to run the PCI guys out of the UPCI, I saught to extinguish you.

I DID want you banned, and I was none too pleased when they let you back in. of that there is no question.

but not because of your doctrinal belief. do we need to count down the list of those who believe the PCI doctrine that I have never had a run in with?

Newsflash bud, it aint your doctrine, its you. You dont debate anymore than I have. You attack. YOU use terms like Papist, Morman, Sacrimental Baptismal Regenerist (no im not spell checking).

DanA, it isnt your doctrine.
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Caught a whiff of that too, huh?

They're bottling eu de toillette from the Texas cattle ranches.

Ooh la la!!!!


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Oh lets be very clear, after you proved to be no different than those who sought to run the PCI guys out of the UPCI, I saught to extinguish you.

I DID want you banned, and I was none too pleased when they let you back in. of that there is no question.

but not because of your doctrinal belief. do we need to count down the list of those who believe the PCI doctrine that I have never had a run in with?

Newsflash bud, it aint your doctrine, its you. You dont debate anymore than I have. You attack. YOU use terms like Papist, Morman, Sacrimental Baptismal Regenerist (no im not spell checking).

DanA, it isnt your doctrine.
Ferd ... it's Mormon, Sacramental and Baptismal Regenerationist.

Hope this has been carthartic.


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Old 03-29-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: Did Baptism Ever Wash Away Sins?

Can you feel...the luv twonite.....ooh...ooh.....
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:09 PM
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Ode to Ferd's Ire -

Shall I compare thee to a scorching summer's day? Thou art more blazing and more raging:Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May And summer's lease hath all too short a date: Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines, And often is his gold complexion dimm'd; And every fair from fair sometime declines, By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd; But thy eternal summer shall not fade Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest; Nor shall death brag thou wander'st in his shade, When in eternal lines to time thou growest: So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

- W. Shakespeare ... w/ some tweaking from DanA.


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From fairest creatures we desire increase,
That thereby beauty's rose might never die,
But as the riper should by time decease,
His tender heir might bear his memory:
But thou contracted to thine own bright eyes,
Feed'st thy light's flame with self-substantial fuel,
Making a famine where abundance lies,
Thy self thy foe, to thy sweet self too cruel:
Thou that art now the world's fresh ornament,
And only herald to the gaudy spring,
Within thine own bud buriest thy content,
And tender churl mak'st waste in blathering.


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Ferd ... it's Mormon, Sacramental and Baptismal Regenerationist.

Hope this has been catholic.



Catholic?


Huh?
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: Did Baptism Ever Wash Away Sins?

baptism and sin.

Baptism never erased sin from your record...God's recollection of your sins. That comes by faith and repentance and then God forgives and forgets.

However perhaps there is still a spiritual change that needs to take place WITHIN ourselves that God does when we are baptized

Col 2:11 In him you also were circumcised — not, however, with a circumcision performed by human hands, but by the removal of the fleshly body, that is, through the circumcision done by Christ.
Col 2:12 Having been buried with him in baptism, you also have been raised with him through your faith in the power of God who raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And even though you were dead in your transgressions and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, he nevertheless made you alive with him, having forgiven all your transgressions.
Col 2:14 He has destroyed what was against us, a certificate of indebtedness expressed in decrees opposed to us. He has taken it away by nailing it to the cross.
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:15 PM
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Re: Did Baptism Ever Wash Away Sins?

Ok now...do I need to call a time out and put your noses in the corner little boys?

Seriously, it's to YOUR benefit as well as outsiders that read here that we all stop slinging mud and insults and just discuss the word of God....in fact it will work towards the benefit of all Apostolics if we an handle the word of God in that way.
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Ok now...do I need to call a time out and put your noses in the corner little boys?

Seriously, it's to YOUR benefit as well as outsiders that read here that we all stop slinging mud and insults and just discuss the word of God....in fact it will work towards the benefit of all Apostolics if we an handle the word of God in that way.
It was kind of recreational for a Saturday afternoon.

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Ferd ... it's Mormon, Sacramental and Baptismal Regenerationist.

Hope this has been carthartic.


LOL! cathardic? No thats what happens when I look into my little boys eyes. all is then right with the world.

All I was doing was seeking to explain the question you asked.

but I do think

DanA the DanEyete is a great turn of a phrase!
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