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Old 03-14-2007, 01:59 PM
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I think its time to admit that the problems we face are real. We are at an impasse in our movement. Heels dug in, jaw set, and lines drawn in the sand.

There is no turning back, and somethings gotta give.

Hopefully, no one will perceive that as a slam against the UPC. It is simple truth.
PP, the sky is blue, water is wet, and an organization with its piers drilled into the bedrock of tradition will always have problems with contemporary demands for growth.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:03 PM
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This latest missionary fiasco may be the spark that lights the powder keg ....

It parallels with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria .... it set off a chain of events that set Europe on fire ... igniting WWI ...

This of course ... was not the cause ... militarism, imperialism, and nationalism were the deep rooted causes that had been ignored for years. IMHO
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Wow! Things are heating up!

The line is drawn, and both sides will be recruiting furiously to their ideology. This is going to get nasty!
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:05 PM
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Wow! Things are heating up!

The line is drawn, and both sides will be recruiting furiously to their ideology. This is going to get nasty!
Yeah and its just March.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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This latest missionary fiasco may be the spark that lights the powder keg ....

It parallels with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria .... it set off a chain of events that set Europe on fire ... igniting WWI ...

This of course ... was not the cause ... militarism, imperialism, and nationalism were the deep rooted causes that had been ignored for years. IMHO
...has the feel of the Etheopian debacle.
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I think its time to admit that the problems we face are real. We are at an impasse in our movement. Heels dug in, jaw set, and lines drawn in the sand.

There is no turning back, and somethings gotta give.

Hopefully, no one will perceive that as a slam against the UPC. It is simple truth.
I perceive it for what it is -- truth, as you said. There are members who simply don't agree with the trends, decisions, etc. And they are weighing or have weighed their options. Very simple. They'll either stick with it a bit longer or get out.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:11 PM
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This latest missionary fiasco may be the spark that lights the powder keg ....

It parallels with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria .... it set off a chain of events that set Europe on fire ... igniting WWI ...
man, do you even think before you type some of this stuff??? how can you compare the "FM" situation to the assassination that started a World War??

*walks away just shaking his head*
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man, do you even think before you type some of this stuff??? how can you compare the "FM" situation to the assassination that started a World War??

*walks away just shaking his head*
Malvaro ... they are making the missionary into a martyr ... intentionally ....
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Yeah and its just March.
I hope no one feels they need to "pack heat" to go to GC!
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:16 PM
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Malvaro ... they are making the missionary into a martyr ... intentionally ....
No, "they're" just desiring to see him and his family treated with the diginity that the ones who "submit" get treated with.
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