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Old 02-17-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: is McCain the Lessor of Two Evils?

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well.... independants that have opposed all things democrat.... constitutionalists....


you know, the usual suspects... the good guys.

but yea, Republicans get to talk about morality with other republicans. Democrats are not allowed to talk. period.

Gerry Studds
Barny Frank
Bill Clinton
Ted Kennedy
Robert Byrd

it isnt what they did, it is what their party defended.

Richard Nixon
Mark Foley
Bill Packwood
Bob Livingston
Trent Lott

it is what they did and it is what their party did about it.

Chris continues to post in this thread about McCains morality.

just want to balance that with the above...

Hypocracy runs rampant.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:14 PM
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I'm sorry about the pain you've experienced in your life. Not having a stable family in my background has been a source of sorrow in my own life. However, I've also learned that my own circumstances and experiences don't often correlate to those of others. McCain divorced his wife, yes; but it does not necessarily follow that he "abandoned" his children or shirked his responsibilities in other ways.
McCain had extramarital affairs and left his wife and kids for a floosy he was sleeping around with. That's not the kind of man who should be President. Liberalism is a political position...but immoral character is immoral character. Divorce is the true enemy of the institution of marriage.

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You're taking an undoubtedly painful and very personal failing of a total stranger and smearing him and his ex and their children. Running others down will not bring you any justice or a sense of closure for your own painful experiences.
McCain's a womanizing deadbeat.

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Why don't we hit McCain for having a policy on Illegal Immigration that was even more "liberal" than Obama's? Or why don't we ask the tough questions about how the First Amendment was harmed by the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill?
You mean, why don't we look the other way about him sleeping around and ditching is family for some tramp?

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There are plenty of real issues to hammer the guy on. The fact that he also behaves like the majority of men in America is not really a compelling argument against his candidacy. Didn't you ever hear what the First Lady, Mrs. Harding found in a closet in the White House kitchen back in the 1920's?
Not true. The man is unfaithful and emotionally unbalanced.

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I fear that your emotional highs and lows on this reveal vulnerabilities that will only get you hurt. These politicians are goobers; you however, are a child of God.
According to most here I'm a godless socialist. Therefore all bets are off.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:21 PM
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So if Satan showed up with wife and kids he has been faithful to all along but still has no problem with killing a baby in the womb he would be better than one who was unfaithful yet reconcillary(sp)?
Obama's position is consistent with current law. Obama hasn't forced a single woman to abort and he admits that these are tough issues. His position is that the government's ability to police abortion is limited, therefore choice and responsibility rests entirely on the woman choosing an abortion.

You see...you guys like to politicize abortion by blaming a political party and not the women who choose it. The government has taken a hands off approach to the matter. Now it's on women. The problem is women are tithe payers and church attendees. Most don't have the guts to tell women who have aborted that their godless murderers from the pulpit. Instead, it's much easier to politicize it and blame the Democrats. And it's important to note here, a growing number of Democrats are becoming pro-life, while a growing number of Republicans are becoming pro-choice. Within the next generation we'll see both parties becoming pro-choice with a pro-life minority voice in each.

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Has there been any study to effects of military life on his personal downfalls. I mean what kind of after effects is there to living in hole in the ground in a hostile country without any real since of hope. Not to mention the torture.
No excuse. There are men who have endured worse and remained faithful to their families.
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I dunno.

Do you have any information whee McCain has leased one or more evils?

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Old 02-17-2008, 02:22 PM
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I dunno.

Do you have any information whee McCain has leased one or more evils?

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Obama's position is consistent with current law. Obama hasn't forced a single woman to abort and he admits that these are tough issues. His position is that the government's ability to police abortion is limited, therefore choice and responsibility rests entirely on the woman choosing an abortion.

You see...you guys like to politicize abortion by blaming a political party and not the women who choose it. The government has taken a hands off approach to the matter. Now it's on women. The problem is women are tithe payers and church attendees. Most don't have the guts to tell women who have aborted that their godless murderers from the pulpit. Instead, it's much easier to politicize it and blame the Democrats. And it's important to note here, a growing number of Democrats are becoming pro-life, while a growing number of Republicans are becoming pro-choice. Within the next generation we'll see both parties becoming pro-choice with a pro-life minority voice in each.



No excuse. There are men who have endured worse and remained faithful to their families.
WOW , thats a serious slap in the face there brother, there are Iraqi veterans suffering from less treatment than that right know and it is destroying families and taking lives yet you write off any his experience as null and void? Thought you were the caring one here....

I don't know what else to type, I am truly shocked at the heartlessness of your remark, in one sentence you just told thousands of veterans that their experience in war time is no excuse for any suffering they may be going through.

I have had a comment in the back of my mind that I have kept there because in a round about way you haven't deserved it. Now you have.

In my opinion you should just pack your family up and move to Canada so you can have everything that makes you happy and you won't have to put up with us Americans anymore. I pray you do this. I am having enough problems paying for illegal immigrants without having to pay for "so called" "Americans". You no longer deserve the label.
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Old 02-17-2008, 02:42 PM
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WOW , thats a serious slap in the face there brother, there are Iraqi veterans suffering from less treatment than that right know and it is destroying families and taking lives yet you write off any his experience as null and void? Thought you were the caring one here....

I don't know what else to type, I am truly shocked at the heartlessness of your remark, in one sentence you just told thousands of veterans that their experience in war time is no excuse for any suffering they may be going through.

I have had a comment in the back of my mind that I have kept there because in a round about way you haven't deserved it. Now you have.

In my opinion you should just pack your family up and move to Canada so you can have everything that makes you happy and you won't have to put up with us Americans anymore. I pray you do this. I am having enough problems paying for illegal immigrants without having to pay for "so called" "Americans". You no longer deserve the label.
I meant that there's no excuse in not holding McCain responsible for his actions. There are many servicemen who have endured far worse and been faithful. Its you who think they are so incapable of being faithful after war time you're willing to excuse their immorality. I was in the military and let me tell you from personal experience...there are faithful men who remained faithful. These are men with guts and integrity. McCain has guts, I'll give him that. But integrity? Nope. No man who cheats on his wife and abandons her for some floosy should be revered as a Christian's candidate.

And now I no longer deserve the label of American because I disagree with you. You're a real piece of work. I served. Did you?
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I meant that there's no excuse in not holding McCain responsible for his actions. There are many servicemen who have endured far worse and been faithful. Its you who think they are so incapable of being faithful after war time you're willing to excuse their immorality. I was in the military and let me tell you from personal experience...there are faithful men who remained faithful. These are men with guts and integrity. McCain has guts, I'll give him that. But integrity? Nope. No man who cheats on his wife and abandons her for some floosy should be revered as a Christian's candidate.

And now I no longer deserve the label of American because I disagree with you. You're a real piece of work. I served. Did you?
I see you are still at it.

dude, dont you get it? CLEAN UP YOUR OWN HOUSE BEFORE TELLING US WHAT TO DO ABOUT OURS.

we can run a thice married womanizing by-sexual felandering child abandoning, manslaughterer and you dont get to say a stinking word.
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Chris continues to post in this thread about McCains morality.

just want to balance that with the above...

Hypocracy runs rampant.
I think your post was fair. The point is...neither party is the "moral party". I think we can agree on that much.

Now that I'm judged as being a "socialist", been regarded as having compromised my Christianity, and now been labeled unAmerican, for merely disagreeing...what else can you guys call me?
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I see you are still at it.

dude, dont you get it? CLEAN UP YOUR OWN HOUSE BEFORE TELLING US WHAT TO DO ABOUT OURS.

we can run a thice married womanizing by-sexual felandering child abandoning, manslaughterer and you dont get to say a stinking word.
It's a free country and I'll say what I like. You can fly to Ohio and hit me in the nose over it, if it will make you feel better. LOL
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