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02-10-2008, 01:27 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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this is the 2nd time you've said this i asked you to explain in detail what you mean by this
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I feel she's right bro. No matter who gets in. I can feel the wind starting to chill as the storm front comes this way.
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02-10-2008, 01:27 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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I wanna wish everyone a good night(except for christopher & chosenby1)
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LOL
You got to be kidding. Good night bro. Love you man.
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02-10-2008, 01:29 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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this is the 2nd time you've said this i asked you to explain in detail what you mean by this
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sorry, I did not see it. I just see America haas no real choice for president, seems like things (money wise) are not the best...I see so much trouble when I come to the states...distrust...
It just seems like we are liking on the brink of some happening that will change the course of history...
America is no longer respected by many countries as she once was, the dollar is not strong...just lots of things...
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02-10-2008, 01:30 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
and sweet dreams to you all and us here in south America...
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02-10-2008, 01:39 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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The terrorist cells were in America for years. Yet they didn't attack until 9-11-2001. Why? Why didn't they attack us under President Clinton? I asked a retired military friend of mine this and he gave me this answer, "The terrorists attacked us in 2001... because they could." He then explained how the Bush administration cut funds to several counter terrorist projects, re-arranged the system, and even placed new leadership over the departments. Clinton ran a real tight ship. When Bush's anti-terror decisions prior to 9-11 are compared to President Clinton's...President Clinton was far tougher on terror and had more counter terrorism measures in place.
So in my mind...I wonder...maybe America would be safer with Democrats back in office. The idea that Democrats want to get blown up or don't care if their own families die in a terrorist assult is just stupid. I don't know. I do know the Democrats would have no qualms with using strong domestic measures. Just a thought.
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We were attacked 3 or 4 times from AlQueda while Clinton was in office. We just didn't get it on American soil until 2001.
Clinton ran a tight ship? Why didn't he do something about the attacks on two or three military bases and the USS Cole???
Instead, we were off fighting wars in Bosnia and Somalia.
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02-10-2008, 01:40 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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his mother is not muslim
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And he hasn't seen his father since he was a small child. Nor his step-father, I believe.
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02-10-2008, 01:41 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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im going to admit, his name scares me- he has a muslim name folks hello!
his skin color doesn't. I'm white and my pastor is black.most whites can't say that cuz they would never sit under a black( and they would never admit that either)
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He has an Arabic name. What if your Pastor's last name was Abdul? Oh my...I just had a revelation. Paula Abdul is a covert Muslim trying to take over the US
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02-10-2008, 01:46 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
his color does not scare me. I have children as black as you can get...I am like mark his name scares me...his history scares me...he is not american to the bone. have you ever been to some of these foreign countries? Never think most of them will really welcome you.
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HE has no history. It's his father and step father who were NOT in his life very long. God forbid we judge each other based on our parents or grandparents or great grandparents. He was BORN in America. His MOTHER is American.
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02-10-2008, 01:49 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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sorry, I did not see it. I just see America haas no real choice for president, seems like things (money wise) are not the best...I see so much trouble when I come to the states...distrust...
It just seems like we are liking on the brink of some happening that will change the course of history...
America is no longer respected by many countries as she once was, the dollar is not strong...just lots of things...
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Yep...Bush tanked us. lol
When he got reelected my wife looked at me and said, "Our country will never survive another four years of this man." The next President has to pick up a lot of pieces. Sadly, I don't think it's going to get much better. We're already a second rate nation though we're unwilling to admit it.
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02-10-2008, 01:54 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??
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never think those that have "blood" from other countries do not have two loves...
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Your last name....is it Latin? WE ALL have blood from other countries...good grief.
Wikipedia
Obama was born in Honolulu to a black Kenyan father and a white American mother. He lived most of his early life in the U.S. state of Hawaii. From ages six to ten, he lived in Jakarta, Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, Obama worked as a community organizer, University of Chicago lecturer, and civil rights lawyer before running for public office and serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.
4 years he spent in another country.... 
Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya, of Luo ethnicity) and Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).[9] Throughout his early years, he was commonly known at home and school as "Barry".[10] Obama's parents met while both were attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student.[11] They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.[12] His father went to Harvard University to pursue Ph.D. studies, then returned to Kenya, where he died in an auto accident in 1982.[13] His mother married another foreign student, Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967.[14] Obama attended local schools in Jakarta from ages 6 to 10, where classes were taught in Indonesian.[15][16] He then returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, while attending Punahou School from the fifth grade until his graduation in 1979.[17] Obama's mother died of ovarian cancer a few months after the publication of his 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father.[18]
He spent MOST of his life in America with Americans in American schools people.
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