Drawing Lines: Where Do Yours Begin?

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

Another conviction for me: Getting on the platform without prayer. I can't do it. I have pray before service and especially before I get on the platform to sing or play the keyboards. If I haven't prayed, I don't feel comfy up there. I need to be sensitive to God and make sure that I am in tune with what He wants to do in the service....

AMEN!

Scores do it and then wonder why they can't get it together for the service, why services drag or why things seem scattered... PRAYER fixes 90% of that!

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

AMEN!

Scores do it and then wonder why they can't get it together for the service, why services drag or why things seem scattered... PRAYER fixes 90% of that!

Amen... I agree totally. All the churches I have ever been in required the platform to be in the prayer room or they didnt go near the platform... I can even count a few times we had no music on certain nights because the musicians or musician was late and thought they werent gonna go to the prayer room!

[MawMaw]

One thing that bothers me and I've always been convicted of is to hear someone say flippantly and with no real regard to God Almighty, phrases such as......

Oh my God or Good Lord (which I'm working on and repent every time I say it) or Jesus.......etc.

To me it is the same as using God's name in vain.

Originally Posted by Lacey

One thing that bothers me and I've always been convicted of is to hear someone say flippantly and with no real regard to God Almighty, phrases such as......

Oh my God or Good Lord (which I'm working on and repent every time I say it) or Jesus.......etc.

To me it is the same as using God's name in vain.

Amen! This is becoming more common to hear....even among ministers. I hate it when they are preaching and say stuff like this and they are not oven close to praying or addressing God.

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Joelel

I think I'll stick with the convictions the word or the Holy Ghost gives me.I think I'll keep the beams out of my eye so I can see to get the mote out of my brothers eye.

Math.7:1: Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3: And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4: Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

I was gonna put this poster on ignore...then I remembered how entertaining he/she was before being banned. Stay tuned, ya don't need no TV when this one is around! LOL

[Joseph Miller]

Well, I don't put things on top of my Bible either. I have held to this for years.

I don't believe in women cutting their hair, wearing pants (in public), ear rings, necklaces, make up, etc... I have a conviction on those things that I believe is based on Biblical principles. The reason that I say in public about women wearing pants is because my wife and I have a strong conviction against women wearing pants at ANYTIME. If it is an abomination at any time it is all the time.

Maybe I am overboard, but I have a conviction against my wife wearing my tshirts. It is a mans garment. I have a conviction against facial hair. I know there is no scripture against it. I grew it for a SHORT while. While I was preaching one night with it I made a statement that I don't want to do anything that at first glance would identify me with the world. I shaved that night and as much as I hate to shave I just can't let it grow. It is my conviction. I don't push it on anyone. Some of these are things that are between God and I. I have made some promises to him and some things he has asked of me and I do it because I love him.

I draw the line on fellowship when people play with doctrine, I am a very strong "3 stepper". I also have to draw it at cut hair on women, long hair on men, ear rings, necklaces, pants, etc... There are somethings that I just have a hard time overlooking.

Those that don't have my view, I will be their friend and love them, but I just can't have close fellowship with them.

[AmazingGrace]

I have addressed many things on here but guess never really the real question either lol...

First of all let me say I appreciate your post Bro Miller and thank you for your kind attitude.

Ok first thing I have seen addressed a lot.. the putting things ontop of the bible... Nope cant do it dont know why just cant! my husband even laughed at me the other day over this one.. we were just recently talking about it and I realized there was something laying ontop of my bible.. it was one of his study books.. I moved it.. he asked why I said well its on top of my bible and its NOT EVEN KJV he just laughed and said ok honey LOL.. dont ask cuz I dont know!

I have strong personal convictions against pants, cutting hair,makeup, jewelry other than my wedding ring which I will wear, earrings, necklaces. Yes I know everyone has their own views. These are mine. I hold them dear. Its between me and God and if you dont have the same convictions as me it doesnt make you any less human and there is no reason we cannot be friends however... like Bro Miller and others have stated.. when you mess with doctrine.. then well... thats about it for me... I cant stand to hear all these new things people are coming up with that just.. well they arent there! The bible isnt meant to be torn and ripped apart and made to amount to nothing!! Big no no!!!

Bro Miller related a story about one of his convictions so I have to tell this one lol kind of funny how God works with some of us. I had just met my husband.. we were going out for dinner. I had on a pair of jeans and a really nice jacket. He had never complained once but you could see disappointment in his eyes. Well he came to get me that night and I walked out the door, and then said oh wait.. need to go change shoes.. thats all I went to do.. well. Had to have a certain pair of socks with the new shoes I was putting on so I took off the jeans.. as I went to put them back on... my leg started to hurt... then the other leg... took them off again and my legs were burnt! Yes I am not kidding! I had burn marks on my legs! So go to the closet and get a skirt,,, these burn marks were immediately gone (btw I do have pictures of this which I took trying to figure out what was happening lol) so then I come back outside and hubby says.. hey... why did you change with a grin and I said just wanted to... well waited a few weeks to put those pants or any for the matter back on... burnt again! Needless to say... I havent worn pants since at all! Yes I have slept in pajamas and have no problem with that but this girl aint puttin on a pair of pants for no one for no reason nope!

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Well, I don't put things on top of my Bible either. I have held to this for years.

I don't believe in women cutting their hair, wearing pants (in public), ear rings, necklaces, make up, etc... I have a conviction on those things that I believe is based on Biblical principles. The reason that I say in public about women wearing pants is because my wife and I have a strong conviction against women wearing pants at ANYTIME. If it is an abomination at any time it is all the time.

Maybe I am overboard, but I have a conviction against my wife wearing my tshirts. It is a mans garment. I have a conviction against facial hair. I know there is no scripture against it. I grew it for a SHORT while. While I was preaching one night with it I made a statement that I don't want to do anything that at first glance would identify me with the world. I shaved that night and as much as I hate to shave I just can't let it grow. It is my conviction. I don't push it on anyone. Some of these are things that are between God and I. I have made some promises to him and some things he has asked of me and I do it because I love him.

I draw the line on fellowship when people play with doctrine, I am a very strong "3 stepper". I also have to draw it at cut hair on women, long hair on men, ear rings, necklaces, pants, etc... There are somethings that I just have a hard time overlooking.

Those that don't have my view, I will be their friend and love them, but I just can't have close fellowship with them.

When I was in the UPCI/Oregon district it was really discouraged to wear facial hair and I didn’t know of many platforms that you could be on and certainly not ours.

You are the first to admit though that you have no scripture for it- thank you!
I love honesty.

When the Creator made us, and made woman differently then men, why do you think He gave us facial hair?

Even for woman shaving their legs and armpits- I am for it but I think this is cultural and not biblical just like men’s facial hair.

Here's another one... My wife's father was a Pastor for years until arthritis pretty much left him in a wheelchair and immobile. Not sure where she got it but, to this day, she won't even TOUCH a deck of playing cards.

As far as I know it wasn't an issue with her Dad (had 5 daughters and they never played cards but was never preached against) but my precious wife wants NOTHING to do with them. The Church I came into had no problem with playing card games and the FIRST big 'disagreement' we ever had as a married couple is when we went to visit the family of my deceased Mother (she died when I was 11) we ended up sitting around playing some card game.

She walked around the corner and saw me and burst into tears and stomped into the bedroom we were staying in. When I ran to see what was wrong she blurted out, "If I knew you were going to backslide I would have never married you!"

I was shocked, embarrassed in front of my family and - now - angry. We came to an agreement, however... she don't complain if I play (which is maybe once in the last 5 years) and I don't make her bother them.

P.S.: The maddest I think I ever saw her was when one of my sons, in an attempt to pick on her, put a deck of cards in her purse. She saw them moments later and... well... it was bad. Just for the record, I admonished him to NEVER do it again as it bordered on violating her conviction. He agreed and apologized.

I have a conviction not to judge/condemn others to hell. God will be their judge and I let people make thier own decisions.

The two girls and one woman in my house all have long hair, (this is not good for our vaccuum machine but we make due).

We have a conviction to give to the needy and we do it in a way which does not receive recognition by other people. My wife and I make it a habit to not even tell each-other.

I have a conviction to continue learning every day of my life. I have a conviction for higher education, (my wife doesn’t) haha.

More recently, I have a conviction to take care of the temple of the Holy Ghost. I have been walking 3 miles, 4-5 times a week.