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01-10-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
My personal view is that this is a UPCI #2. While the names have been changed to protect the inniocent, I really doubt it will be any better than the UPC.
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uhhh... the UPC is not a bad thing...
having said that I don't see how they did nor will address the concerns over which they disfellowshipped the UPC.
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01-10-2008, 05:48 PM
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Of course it evolved....the question is when??????
I believe this starting evolving at least a year or two ago when people were wearing "I'm a concerned Conservative Apostolic" pins at GC.
There is no way that these men have put together a complete organization, tax exempt status, headquarters, departments and all just since October.
I have a few ultra con friends and they have told me that this new organzation was being talked about between ministers at the East Coast Conference....some of the things that are now becoming public were being discussed back then....
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I have read several of your post about Tulsa. I would say that you are very angry and bitter at those men. This will not hurt them, but it could sure cause you some trouble.
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01-10-2008, 05:53 PM
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The statement concerning "The Word" and "Jesus Christ" show a surprising level of sophistication. At least it's surprising to me. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I don't expect to find any "good stuff" when I read these things.
So "kudos" to T. French and team for addressing an issue that has always been nagging at me. At least I think I discern the handiwork of T. French here. Whoever it is, good job... This time!
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01-10-2008, 05:56 PM
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I have read several of your post about Tulsa. I would say that you are very angry and bitter at those men. This will not hurt them, but it could sure cause you some trouble.
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nah, I'm not angry or bitter at all. Your assesment is incorrect. I actually have a few friends going that way, and I respect their convictions.
There was just quite a few of people that post on here that have been defending this group, now known as the WPF.
Thad, myself, and others were told that we were blowing out of proportion what was happening. That this was just going to be a 'loose fellowship' of like minded men and nothing more. Some laughed at us,
it turns out we were right 
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01-10-2008, 06:02 PM
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The statement concerning "The Word" and "Jesus Christ" show a surprising level of sophistication. At least it's surprising to me. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I don't expect to find any "good stuff" when I read these things.
So "kudos" to T. French and team for addressing an issue that has always been nagging at me. At least I think I discern the handiwork of T. French here. Whoever it is, good job... This time!
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French. But what is he doing there? I guess I don't get it.
Also, I saw a Treece on the list. Is he a brain like Marvin?
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01-10-2008, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
The statement concerning "The Word" and "Jesus Christ" show a surprising level of sophistication. At least it's surprising to me. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I don't expect to find any "good stuff" when I read these things.
So "kudos" to T. French and team for addressing an issue that has always been nagging at me. At least I think I discern the handiwork of T. French here. Whoever it is, good job... This time!
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Gee... skeptical aren't we?
Many of these men have been in ministry 30-40+ years and have an extensive knowledge of the Bible.
So it shouldn't be surprising that they can give a good biblical definition/explanation of "The Word", and "Jesus Christ".
The definitions they gave were solid and fairly thorough, but I wouldn't think it displays a "surprising level of sophistication". These men are not biblical/theological lightweights, even though we might disagree with them on certain issues.
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01-10-2008, 06:46 PM
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nah, I'm not angry or bitter at all. Your assesment is incorrect. I actually have a few friends going that way, and I respect their convictions.
There was just quite a few of people that post on here that have been defending this group, now known as the WPF.
Thad, myself, and others were told that we were blowing out of proportion what was happening. That this was just going to be a 'loose fellowship' of like minded men and nothing more. Some laughed at us,
it turns out we were right |
CP, sometimes it happens that some people just cannot imagine the worse case scenario...go figure.
One of my brothers pastors in central IL, and told me from the outset that the speculation of it (the withdrawing of so many) being more than a handful was just that...specualtion.
He of course has changed his tune and is distressed at what is happening.
That is not said to cast a shadow on the naysayers, God love 'em...we need more men and women who won't believe and receive a bad report.
But in this case, it seems that it is far greater than any of first thought.
So, don't be so hard on these folks, CP...
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01-10-2008, 06:46 PM
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Wow- I called and found out that my pastors dad and a brother left the UPCI over this and are in the WPF now.
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01-10-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
Of course it evolved....the question is when??????
I believe this starting evolving at least a year or two ago when people were wearing "I'm a concerned Conservative Apostolic" pins at GC.
There is no way that these men have put together a complete organization, tax exempt status, headquarters, departments and all just since October.
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Exactly, you cannot put together the framework for an organization in that
period of time. This appears to have been in the works for some time.
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01-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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Hmmm, so where are all you Con's who said these guys weren't going to form another Organization????
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Exactly!
Remember back in October when we were told they had no intention of forming an organization? Prominent members of this board tried very hard to call the rest of us liars when we pointed out their intentions.
Tell me, were they lying then, or just horribly mistaken and blind?
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