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Old 01-10-2008, 01:40 AM
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Your post to rrford lacked any foundation of reasoning and tried to assume that he would accept anything but homosexuality. Again, warped reasoning screaming to the forefront.
It didn't lack reason at all. I think it is hard to exclude someone on the basis of sin because there are so many different kinds of sin that is put up with in the church.

If you kick someone out for homosexuality and then someone commits adultery and you say don't worry God will forgive you brother I think one needs to re-evaluate his or her judgment, logic and bias.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:41 AM
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It does, however, appear that they are working on fixing that. For that we can be thankful!
And what are you really trying to say preacher?
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:43 AM
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It didn't lack reason at all. I think it is hard to exclude someone on the basis of sin because there are so many different kinds of sin that is put up with in the church.

If you kick someone out for homosexuality and then someone commits adultery and you say don't worry God will forgive you brother I think one needs to re-evaluate his or her judgment, logic and bias.
No one said anyhting about not extending forgiveness.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:46 AM
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It didn't lack reason at all. I think it is hard to exclude someone on the basis of sin because there are so many different kinds of sin that is put up with in the church.

If you kick someone out for homosexuality and then someone commits adultery and you say don't worry God will forgive you brother I think one needs to re-evaluate his or her judgment, logic and bias.
You're reasoning here would be solely predicated on having proof of actual repentance, proving one's self and restoration. There is no proof of that.

rrford is in a better condition to understand the depth of his iniquity and any attempts at repentance or restitution than most anyone I know. I'll trust his opinion on this explicitly.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:52 AM
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And what are you really trying to say preacher?
I'm not 'trying' to say anything. I said what I meant: it appears that the Administrators of AFF are making a commendable attempt to clean up some of the 'trouble spots' on the forum.

They have had a more visible presence lately and haven't been afraid to take action when needed. That gives people like you and I a chance to dialogue without others devouring the 'good' with blathering attacks on everything we believe.

I, along with what seems to be most of the others, appreciate what they do and the effort it takes to keep a forum running smoothly.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:53 AM
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You know these politicians say things with meaning behind them and then when they get called on it they try to explain away the real meaning in their heart and replace it with political jargon.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:58 AM
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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

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Old 01-10-2008, 02:05 AM
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You know these politicians say things with meaning behind them and then when they get called on it they try to explain away the real meaning in their heart and replace it with political jargon.
Walkby... if you are referring to me, trust me, I'm not worried about anything you can 'call me' on. I'm not real good at 'mixing' words so, where I'm concerned, you pretty much can ask for an explaination and get it.

I've nothing to prove nor hide. This forum has taken an incredibly better turn in the last few weeks. I expressed as much when rrford made his statement.

You asked. I answered. See how easy that works?
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:07 AM
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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

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Old 01-10-2008, 02:09 AM
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The time has come where I feel I must leave the AFF. I have enjoyed the friends I have made, but I've not enjoyed the enemies I've made. I just hope those who are so judgmental here can live a sinless life, because God will not forgive those who refuse to forgive. St. Matthew put the nail in the coffin.

However, I will be praying for those who speak the truth in love.

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I am not your enemy. And I am a very merciful person. But I will NOT overlook the sin of homosexuality. The family unit is continually in a battle in this world. I am hearing more and more preachers, and saints, "coming out". I refuse to be silent when this sin that has the potential of making one reprobate is becoming so prevolent and accepted in our society.

And I will not stay silent when the promotion of a concert with a known homosexual is taking place. AFF has enough of a stigma to overcome. I am not going to allow promotion of a homosexual lifestyle to be another mark against it.


I am scared to ask, but after reading the first 2 posts of this thread I am wondering, Who came out of the closet? Why do some people think this kind of thing is ok?
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