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Old 12-01-2007, 11:56 PM
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Then there was a time when the body of Christ did not exist on the earth. If Paul could use Elijah's story of a "remnant" that existed to point to a remnant of Israelites that were not blinded and did not stumble at Christ then we can use the same analogy and say there has always been a remnant of true believers throughout history.

...His truth endures to all generations.
His truth does endure. That's why we can thank medieval Catholic monks for our present day understanding of Jesus name baptism and the Holy Ghost. But not every generation will accept that truth.

To say you believe there was a "faithful remnant" of Oneness Pentecostals throughout history is a faith statement. There is no historical proof for that.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:57 PM
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Let me give you a set of ifs.....


If Jesus does not return within the next century Oneness Pentecostalism will be altered dramatically. Our children's children will not be theologically recognizable to us.

If Jesus does not return within the next century, God will raise up a new segment of followers that are willing to strip more and more layers of liturgical pollution away from Apostolic doctrine.
Hopefully our children will know their Bibles better than we do and more Biblical sound than we are.
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Let me give you a set of ifs.....


If Jesus does not return within the next century Oneness Pentecostalism will be altered dramatically. Our children's children will not be theologically recognizable to us.

If Jesus does not return within the next century, God will raise up a new segment of followers that are willing to strip more and more layers of liturgical pollution away from Apostolic doctrine.

If Jesus does not return in the next century, church as we know it will cease to exist. There is a wave of secularism sweeping over world governments at a frightening clip. House churches will no longer be in vogue due to preference - they will become necessary for the survival of the body of Christ.
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I agree with the statement about house churches.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:58 PM
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I'll go you one better alot of the organizations structures are based on a RCC set-up.

I read somewhere that the next and 3rd reformation has to do with changing this structure set-up (i.e. cathedrals, temples, or Christian Life Centers) and going back to the book of Acts' house-churches...where christianity grows wide and not deep...so that once a house church reaches 21 members, it's time to start a new one. The current structure has one man or several men with 500-1000 people deep....whereas house-churches grow wide....
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Then there was a time when the body of Christ did not exist on the earth. If Paul could use Elijah's story of a "remnant" that existed to point to a remnant of Israelites that were not blinded and did not stumble at Christ then we can use the same analogy and say there has always been a remnant of true believers throughout history.

...His truth endures to all generations.
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God will reveal it on that day. His word stands true now as it did in the day Elijah thought he was the only one in Israel that stood on the LORD's side.

I agree that if the Word is true then since Pentecost there has ALWAYS been someone some where preaching truth.

Wasn't Bro. French amazed to find so many apostolics in remote places of the earth? They may not all be making big splashes but there are people all over the globe who know this truth. I just don't beleive that the torch truth was ever totally put out.
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I answered that, sort of. He had a tremendous impact, yes. By bringing Augustinian theology (grace) back to the discussion he did a lot of good. But he was problematic. He's not my poster boy.

But then again, right now my poster boy is a duck. So what do I know?

I do not agree with everything he taught.

I do appreciate his contributions to our still flawed belief system, however.
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The so-called 'TRUTH' is not the doctrine of the Apostles.
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His truth does endure. That's why we can thank medieval Catholic monks for our present day understanding of Jesus name baptism and the Holy Ghost. But not every generation will accept that truth.

To say you believe there was a "faithful remnant" of Oneness Pentecostals throughout history is a faith statement. There is no historical proof for that.
There you go again being theologically and logically sound.
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Let me give you a set of ifs.....


If Jesus does not return within the next century Oneness Pentecostalism will be altered dramatically. Our children's children will not be theologically recognizable to us.

If Jesus does not return within the next century, God will raise up a new segment of followers that are willing to strip more and more layers of liturgical pollution away from Apostolic doctrine.
Well, now boyo', sure 'in you're talking some sense!

That's where our job comes up. We have to keep that flame kindled so that those "kids" a hundred years from now don't have to start everything all over again from scratch.
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