The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

So if I'm adopted Alicea blood is in me???

Must be. Epley said it so it must be true.

We cannot question him.

[SDG]

This is disconcerting ... I've just found out I'm not an Alicea.

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This is disconcerting ... I've just found out I'm not an Alicea.

The adoption of sonship provides the name, according to the custom of Bible times, just as legally as does a bloodline.

Hope there are no wounds being opened by this discussion, Bro. Alicea.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by crakjak

I was about to write this thread off as having lost any semblance of substance and then you bring it on! Good post.

Huh? This has been a wonderful thread!
Daniel has learned a lot.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Huh? This has been a wonderful thread!
Daniel has learned a lot.

Not as much as you .. you learned you have an agenda.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No I read the instruction book that tells how to get there. And NOT one person in this church age will be saved without remission of sins and the ONLY place that is recieved in in water baptism in Jesus Name.

But where did the spin that has Scripture saying that a person is not born again until they speak with tongues come from? I don't have much confidence in what anyone teaches who does not accept what Jesus answered Nicodemus when he asked, "How can these things be?"

The only thing Jesus told Nicodemus in answer to his question as to how someone can be born again is that whosoever believed on Him would have eternal life.

Accepting this truth that Jesus spoke to Nicodemus does not take anything away from the need to repent and be baptized or diminish the need for one to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

You have to deny the work of the Holy Ghost and attribute the transformation that takes place in the lives of millions of people who hear the gospel and place their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation to the devil, which is blasphemous as far as I am concerned.

If the PAJC position on salvation made sense it would be easier to accept, but unfortunately it makes no sense at all because it doesn't reflect what actually happens in the lives of most believers.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Same tune-same message-same method-same church something is good about SAMENESS.

Not if you're wrong!!!

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

But where did the spin that has Scripture saying that a person is not born again until they speak with tongues come from? I don't have much confidence in what anyone teaches who does not accept what Jesus answered Nicodemus when he asked, "How can these things be?"

The only thing Jesus told Nicodemus in answer to his question as to how someone can be born again is that whosoever believed on Him would have eternal life.

Accepting this truth that Jesus spoke to Nicodemus does not take anything away from the need to repent and be baptized or diminish the need for one to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

You have to deny the work of the Holy Ghost and attribute the transformation that takes place in the lives of millions of people who hear the gospel and place their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation to the devil, which is blasphemous as far as I am concerned.

If the PAJC position on salvation made sense it would be easier to accept, but unfortunately it makes no sense at all because it doesn't reflect what actually happens in the lives of most believers.

But it does reflect what happened when someone was born again in the Word of God. That is what counts.

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Not if you're wrong!!!

But it is totally wonderful when you are in the Book and right.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

But it does reflect what happened when someone was born again in the Word of God. That is what counts.

huh???