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04-30-2012, 07:02 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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What are you talking about, the 200K from his new website? That won't begin to pay for his defense and his personal safety in the meantime and the rest of his life, thanks to Sharpton & Jackson for getting him convicted by the media. The Martins have suffered a great loss, but that isn't supposed to make Zimmerman lose his right to a fair trial. Now all the political pressure to get him convicted by a jury, what if the man is not guilty of murder, how would you like to be in his shoes? What if he did not confront Martin? What if Martin made a decision to jump him and beat the tar out of him? In Florida and in Texas that is a dangerous thing to do, too many folks packing. Maybe he made an immature 17 year old decision, in the context of a neighborhood being terrorised by young black hoodlums and mean pitbulls. Now he has to defend himself before the world, not just his peers, as the law provides.
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Crak Sharpton has been VERY LEVEL HEADED in his remarks throughout this whole case-- which, by the way, got enormous before Sharpton got involved.
As for Jackson, he hasn't said or done much this far.
Your bias of Sharpton (albeit based on his recent past) is not congruent with the fact of how he is carrying himself so far.
As for zim, he perjured himself pure and simple-- regardless of if the 200K will cover his legal fees.
No one made zim a marked man except zim himself.
His actions, his little red wagon to pull.
I am glad this case grew the way it did and I am glad he is going to trial.
The Martin family deserve to see the killer of their son go to trial in a case that is anything but cut and dry!
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04-30-2012, 07:06 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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JD -can you give me a link? Thanks.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/us...is-denied.html
The article I read earlier stated that zimmy knew of the site and the money at the time of bond hearing, but his lawyer did not.
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04-30-2012, 09:49 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Crak Sharpton has been VERY LEVEL HEADED in his remarks throughout this whole case-- which, by the way, got enormous before Sharpton got involved.
As for Jackson, he hasn't said or done much this far.
Your bias of Sharpton (albeit based on his recent past) is not congruent with the fact of how he is carrying himself so far.
As for zim, he perjured himself pure and simple-- regardless of if the 200K will cover his legal fees.
No one made zim a marked man except zim himself.
His actions, his little red wagon to pull.
I am glad this case grew the way it did and I am glad he is going to trial.
The Martin family deserve to see the killer of their son go to trial in a case that is anything but cut and dry!
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I would imagine that there are better representatives of the black community than Sharpton and Jackson.
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04-30-2012, 10:26 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
JD - I do not see where he perjured himself.
Can you point it out or give me something clearer?
I see where he said he could not afford a 1 million dollar bond.
Thanks
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04-30-2012, 11:54 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
I think most of the outrage is from looking at this from hindsight and seeing that Trayvon was indeed innocent. If the whole incident happened the exact same way but in the end Trayvon was indeed carrying a weapon or was on drugs or had some kind of criminal record then in hindsight most would not be calling foul. Maybe even congratulating his instincts.
From Zimmerman's point of view without the benefit of hindsight, he was trying to be proactive. There are many different ways it could have played out. Zimmerman could have been the aggressor, or Trayvon could have been the aggressor and any variation in between. The dispatch told him not to follow because they may become liable of the outcome, good or bad, if they're telling a civilian to follow someone if the civilian get's injured by the assailant or in the outcome of Trayvon and Zimmerman. It don't really mean you're breaking any laws just that they're not liable.
The way I see it is that because we don't know who's the aggressor or the initiator then isn't that grounds for reasonable doubt? Or if you see someone who looks suspicious and you confront them or ask them a question and a fight ensues and they get injured or murdered are you now guilty of assault or murder/manslaughter? Or do it depends on who's the aggressor? The one who actually initiated the fight portion of the confrontation?
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05-01-2012, 09:59 AM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Crak Sharpton has been VERY LEVEL HEADED in his remarks throughout this whole case-- which, by the way, got enormous before Sharpton got involved.
As for Jackson, he hasn't said or done much this far.
Your bias of Sharpton (albeit based on his recent past) is not congruent with the fact of how he is carrying himself so far.
As for zim, he perjured himself pure and simple-- regardless of if the 200K will cover his legal fees.
No one made zim a marked man except zim himself.
His actions, his little red wagon to pull.
I am glad this case grew the way it did and I am glad he is going to trial.
The Martin family deserve to see the killer of their son go to trial in a case that is anything but cut and dry!
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JD, good people can honestly disagree. I respect your right to your views though I disagree with most of them concerning this matter.
And I have never heard a level thought out of Sharpton, and I have listened to him from time to time. He is a real piece of work. Now he is pulling back because the facts are not with him, and he does want to be in another Duke type situation.
It is possible that Zimmerman had no idea about the $$$ coming in from his website at the time of his bail hearing.
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05-01-2012, 11:41 AM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by crakjak
JD, good people can honestly disagree. I respect your right to your views though I disagree with most of them concerning this matter.
And I have never heard a level thought out of Sharpton, and I have listened to him from time to time. He is a real piece of work. Now he is pulling back because the facts are not with him, and he does want to be in another Duke type situation.
It is possible that Zimmerman had no idea about the $$$ coming in from his website at the time of his bail hearing.
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Sharpton was never over-the-top with anything he said or did in this case, from day 1 of his involvement.
He wasn't involved until AFTER there was an national uproar. His mother was in the process of dying while the momentum was building for this case.
It is possible that zim and his family didn't know that he had money or he didn't know how much money in addition to what he claimed, and the judge said he will revisit it once it becomes clear that the zim family had access to the funds.
However, what I have previously read and what was previously reported down here is that he knew of his website and the cash his website had generated before he made his bond appearance-- which is not a big stretch to believe, being that it was his own website.
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05-16-2012, 12:16 AM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
Meanwhile, the Trayvon Martin autopsy shows that other than his gunshot wound, the only injury on Martin was that the skin on his knuckles was broken. Combined with the evidence from Zimmerman's medical report, the logical conclusion is that Martin was beating up Zimmerman severely before Zimmerman shot him.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...medical-report
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05-16-2012, 06:56 AM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Meanwhile, the Trayvon Martin autopsy shows that other than his gunshot wound, the only injury on Martin was that the skin on his knuckles was broken. Combined with the evidence from Zimmerman's medical report, the logical conclusion is that Martin was beating up Zimmerman severely before Zimmerman shot him.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...medical-report
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