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[Dora]

Originally Posted by Felicity

But the truth is many are saying they still plan to fellowship with the UPC that they may or may not leave.

It kind of leaves you scratching your head.

Thing is ..... UPCI and the Tulsa thing .... whatever and if ever it gets off the ground .... are just groups of men who fellowship around a certain set of beliefs and causes. There are a myriad of differences when it comes to specifics as far as doctrine, holiness issues, etc. but in the end these groups/organizations/fellowships are just that.

The REALITY is that specific callings and anointing of God are lived out individually. What we do and accomplish for God on the individual level is where the rubber meets the road. This is the most important thing.

But who and what you fellowship with is important too. I've been on both sides of the fence so I know a little of what I'm talking about.

In my experience and from what I've seen of these groups that have splintered off the UPCI, they're basically dead in the water compared to what the UPC has accomplished over the years.

That just my l'il ol' opinion.

Dear DEAR Felicity,

Honey, you are no longer a UPC-ite. Why on earth do you care one little bit about what happens to the UPCI at this point???

Why on EARTH do you care to post your thoughts and opinions on a matter that does not concern you?

Do you not know that at this point you have lost all influence and affluence in the UPCI - so you really need to build a bridge and GET OVER YOURSELF!

(and for those of you in TULSA - these statements are posted with tongue firmly implanted in cheek)

[Dora]

Originally Posted by Thad

Ultimatley this whole deal is going to end up in nothing but more polorization,family splits,hatred for each other and finger pointing.It's already taking place.No matter what side you are on,Bitterness and strife has acelerated.each side will blame each other for years to come. It will take a generation to past the hurt this whole thing is producing.

THAD! BRILLIANT POST - as usual!

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Dora,

You could stand to take few lessons in deprtment from Felicity.

I don't agree with all her conclusions about some things, and she knows this very well.

But I have this strange quirk...I find it easy be nice to nice people. I guess I'm funny that way.

Originally Posted by J-Roc

“If you love only those who love you, why should you get credit for that? Even sinners love those who love them! And if you do good only to those who do good to you, why should you get credit? Even sinners do that much! (Luke 6)

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I did not say that you should only be nice to nice people, or that I am only nice to nice people.

Dora has posted over and over again little barbs, pointing out what she considers the inconsistency of "COON" and other conservative posters being kind to Felicity when felicity is not aligned with them ideologically.

I was pointing out to her that people find it easier to be kind to kind people.

And furthermore, thanks for the Scripture, but I memorized that one in the King James a long time ago. I'm not trying to "get credit," I am simply explaining for Miss Dora a simple fact of human behavior.

I just found it as a good opportunity to remind ourselves (me included) that loving those that do good to us is the easy thing to do...the challenge comes when we are able to suck up our pride and love and be kind to those that do us harm (or those that post barbs over and over)...that's when we most reflect the Master. That's all.

[bishopnl]

Originally Posted by Elfin

hahaha - Nate, too funny. I was the one who originally "broke" this part of the story. Bust you... lol I came out of the woodwork to make it my very first post here.

(so funny how alike we think though, huh?)

You stole my thunder!!!

LOL...you know what they say about great minds.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Dora

Dear DEAR Felicity,

Honey, you are no longer a UPC-ite. Why on earth do you care one little bit about what happens to the UPCI at this point???

Why on EARTH do you care to post your thoughts and opinions on a matter that does not concern you?

Do you not know that at this point you have lost all influence and affluence in the UPCI - so you really need to build a bridge and GET OVER YOURSELF!

(and for those of you in TULSA - these statements are posted with tongue firmly implanted in cheek)

Dora, Felicity has gone back to abiding by UPC dress codes and also,she is getting back in the UPC.Don't you remember? they went to Tampa GC

[Dora]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Sis, your repeated sarcastic comments about my "wisdom" notwithstanding, I bear you absolutely no ill will, and please pardon me if I have inadvertently indicated otherwise.

Have I been a little exasperated at your catty remarks to Felicity? Of course. That's no secret.

But if objecting to catty behavior equates in your mind to a lack of compassion for your soul, you need to recalibrate your sensors.

The remark about your smarts was the only part of my post that was NOT sarcastic...and I believe it was the first time I have posted such a post about your posts.

[Coonskinner]

Furthermore:

On different occasions, your posts have left the impression that you think I am lacking wisdom in posting responses to you. You say this "poor depraved soul" stuff.

The implication seems to be that if I really cared about a poor backslider I would be kind to you and never cross you on anything. Of course, the irony is that I haven't labeled you as a backslider or a depraved soul. My objections have been strictly based on your posts.

So Sis, here's the deal.

I think you are a smart, funny lady who is probably the life of the party wherever you go.

I am very sorry for some of the hard knocks you have suffered, whatever the reasons for them were.

I'm sorry that we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot in this little cyber-playground, because I think we'd like each other if we knew one another in real life.

But please quit playing the wounded backslider rebuking the harsh conservative for his mistreatment of a wayward soul. In the first place, you sure don't see yourself that way. And in the second place, you have been in this thing longer than I have, and there isn't anything I could tell you or any counsel I could give you that you don't already know, because you come from a long line of wonderful, godly people. And yu don't want me to "minister" wisdom to your poor soul any more than I would presume to try and do it.

So what say we bury the hatchet?

This is an olive branch, Dora...please pardon me for offending you. I have prayed for you during various crises you have posted about, and want you to be blessed.

[Dora]

Originally Posted by Thad

Dora, Felicity has gone back to abiding by UPC dress codes and also,she is getting back in the UPC.Don't you remember? they went to Tampa GC

Oh! My bad! I thought that was just for "Spirit Week" at General Conference. I toned down the make up, wore my hair up-top of my head, ix-nayed the earbobs and wore skirts down to the floor all week long when I went to GC in Virginia 2004!

Have they re-licensed with the UPCI? Wow!

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Thad

Ultimatley this whole deal is going to end up in nothing but more polorization,family splits,hatred for each other and finger pointing.It's already taking place.No matter what side you are on,Bitterness and strife has acelerated.each side will blame each other for years to come. It will take a generation get to past the hurt this whole thing is producing.

...and this is the Great Commision? We would turn our backs on family and friends, point fingers, let bitterness overwhelm us and fight our brothers and sisters all because of what? the right to advertise on TV... Ha, it is way more than that... IT is completey, and utterly sad!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Dora

The remark about your smarts was the only part of my post that was NOT sarcastic...and I believe it was the first time I have posted such a post about your posts.

Dora, it isn't. If I had the inclination, I could find one or two.

But mainly, I just would like the tension ceased.