Angels reproducing with humans possible?

[shazeep]

well, that is the whole point of the thread, Lafon; to discredit that doctrine.

[shazeep]

...which, i note, the commentaries are not ruling out.

[phareztamar]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, aren't supposed to, granted. thus, "left their first estate," perhaps, or even possibly never consummated as we understand it, but gene manipulated, which i am finding more and more probable. It is only recently, in the last 75 years or so, that we have begun manipulating genes again. "As in the days of Noah."

Gene manipulation? Good grief.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I think it's merely a case of misreading.

Yes...please stop it

[Praxeas]

Gen 6:1 When humankind began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
Gen 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humankind were beautiful. Thus they took wives for themselves from any they chose.
Gen 6:3 So the LORD said, "My spirit will not remain in humankind indefinitely, since they are mortal. They will remain for 120 more years."
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God were having sexual relations with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men.

N12 tn The Hebrew word נְפִילִים (nefilim) is simply transliterated here, because the meaning of the term is uncertain. According to the text, the Nephilim became mighty warriors and gained great fame in the antediluvian world. The text may imply they were the offspring of the sexual union of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of humankind" (Gen_6:2), but it stops short of saying this in a direct manner. The Nephilim are mentioned in the OT only here and in Num_13:33, where it is stated that they were giants (thus KJV, TEV, NLT "giants" here). The narrator observes that the Anakites of Canaan were descendants of the Nephilim. Certainly these later Anakite Nephilim could not be descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim (see also the following note on the word "this").

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by phareztamar

Gene manipulation? Good grief.

just a theory, I'll admit--but one would have to believe that the many recordings we have from the period, carved in stone, were fanciful, rather than accurate, representations, for this to not be true.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Gen 6:1 When humankind began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
Gen 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humankind were beautiful. Thus they took wives for themselves from any they chose.
Gen 6:3 So the LORD said, "My spirit will not remain in humankind indefinitely, since they are mortal. They will remain for 120 more years."
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God were having sexual relations with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men.

N12 tn The Hebrew word נְפִילִים (nefilim) is simply transliterated here, because the meaning of the term is uncertain. According to the text, the Nephilim became mighty warriors and gained great fame in the antediluvian world. The text may imply they were the offspring of the sexual union of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of humankind" (Gen_6:2), but it stops short of saying this in a direct manner. The Nephilim are mentioned in the OT only here and in Num_13:33, where it is stated that they were giants (thus KJV, TEV, NLT "giants" here). The narrator observes that the Anakites of Canaan were descendants of the Nephilim. Certainly these later Anakite Nephilim could not be descendants of the antediluvian Nephilim (see also the following note on the word "this").

So either the fallen angels kept having sex with humans after the flood or there was only a LOCAL flood?


Or now there are 2 nephilim groups, the latter of unknown origin?

[mfblume]

lol

[shazeep]

not sure why you say the latter would be of unknown origin, when they would originate the same way? St Jude seemed to believe this, btw.

[thephnxman]

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