Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on men!!

[Reader]

Well I see one ran away.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Reader

Well I see one ran away.

If you are referring to me I did not run away.

but the arguing is getting nowhere. No one is changing their mind. I didn't come here to fight.

Each side believes they are right and are not going to bend. So why keep arguing?

I have enough stress without fighting.

[Reader]

So are you back to respond to questions that have not been answered?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

If you are referring to me I did not run away.

but the arguing is getting nowhere. No one is changing their mind. I didn't come here to fight.

Each side believes they are right and are not going to bend. So why keep arguing?

I have enough stress without fighting.

Sometimes it's hard to feel the love here.

[Reader]

Yes, especially when Christians distance themselves from other Christians.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Reader

So are you back to respond to questions that have not been answered?

Told you I am not going to argue.

I told you why I believe as I do and will not explain . It would do no good.

I as bro. Epley and some others here know what we believe concerning the matter and who we wish to fellowship. Nothing said here will change that. I have believed this way for nearly 40 year and will until I die.

I believe that some things are weights and some things although not sin lead that direction.

Now I hope you have a nice evening.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

There is no way to use the fifth of Hollywood, the god of sports, or jewelry in the right way.

Just as I have stated over and over. those who want the whiskers are the same ones that want these other thing.

I for one am not going to sit and listen to man that has filled his mind with movies and the god of sports. If that is the kind of man you want reaching to you then so be it, but not me.

Plus my world is not small. Have a lot of fellowship. And I have two grow children, both living for God.

This is where you are very wrong, a Godly man can have a TV and use it in a very good and balanced way. You could go to Wal-Mart and commit the same sin that a man that doesn't have proper bounds on his TV commits.

As for jewelry, not any problem with that, but I do wear a silver wedding ring with a diamond. A silver watch with a leather band. Surely you don't call that evil or sinful.

Why are you so afraid of the use of good things that God has given to his human creation, it is his world, used in the proper way it is His blessings!!!

When you live in a "spiritual delusion" you marginalize and demonize this earth that God gave for his creation to enjoy in righteousness! It is HIS creation and HE made it for man, stop it with demonizing what HE called GOOD. Yes, evil exists and man can chose to practice sin and evil, but everything in the world is not evil. GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD....love not the world neither the things that are in the world......! You have to rightly divide the WORD in the character and the nature of God, otherwise you can make scripture say anything you want to believe.

Same goes for sports, I enjoy baseball, watch it on my TV, but I'm not obsessed with it, nor is it in ANY my God, for goodness sakes man.

[Reader]

I am sincerely sorry that you have made your Christian world so small and excluded many good people from your life simply because they sport a beard.

Just what will happen when you get to heaven and those facial haired men are there? Guess you will be forced to have fellowship then......

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

If you are referring to me I did not run away.

but the arguing is getting nowhere. No one is changing their mind. I didn't come here to fight.

Each side believes they are right and are not going to bend. So why keep arguing?

I have enough stress without fighting.

Relax brother, you take this shallow subject way too seriously. You can live in this world and live pleasing to God, and you certainly should be able to walk with other Christians that love Jesus and righteousness. Love those that HE loves even if they are not perfect, and fellowship with them without having a nasty spirit and attitude.

[Reader]

I do wear a silver wedding ring with a diamond. A silver watch with a leather band.....Same goes for sports, I enjoy baseball, watch it on my TV, but I'm not obsessed with it, nor is it in ANY my God, for goodness sakes man.

That all started with your facial hair....... You could turn it all around by shaving, that is, if you really want to follow God.....