Was it necessary to repeal DADT?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

And that's YOUR job?

10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. epsh 5

[Truthseeker]

Bump for Mr smith.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Ephesians 5
1Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

Notice he mentions walk in love? Some keep driving the point about showing love, let's look at what Paul says about certain lifestyles and what should be our response.

3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.



I'm sure we all agree that homosexuals not making it in the kingdom of God. I hope we all agree.





6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.


Gods wrath is upon them.



7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.


Be not partakers, now does that only mean don't join whoremongers in the bed? Shortly we will see what Paul says to do.



8For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.


We are to walk in the light PROVING what is acceptable to the Lord.



11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.



Some things are even shameful to talk about let alone show up with gifts to celebrate it. We should reproving them to prove what is acceptable to the Lord.





13But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light



"All things that are reproved" Who does that reproving? Paul didn't say let God do it, but we should be reproving. One way we do that is like APOSTLE Paul taught is to not fellowship.


Notice this all started with "walk in love" How can Paul go from Love to reproving whoremongers, fornicators, idolators etc......?? Did he lack the "love the sinner" revelation?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by sandie

For the record, I wasn't trying to "compare" anything.

I was asking if what he would do in the "A" scenario, would he also do it in the "B" scenario.

Maybe I should have asked if he was willing to lend comfort during the abortion would he also want to lend comfort in the murder of a born person.

Oh I understand, and was responding rhetorically.

As to your born/unborn question here... there is really no difference. especially since they are now killing babies that can easily live outside the womb without the aid of the mother (and very often are still alive when removed)

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Bump for Mr smith.

You're stretching this about a thousand miles out of context. That is directly given as instruction to an individual concerning their personal behavior.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Yes, they did.

Unfortunately, we don't know where he drew the lines. So that still leaves us discussing issues like these - trying to figure out for ourselves what He would do. And sometimes we strongly disagree.

Would Jesus have attended a union of homosexual people and brought gifts?

He would have loved them, no doubt whatsoever....but, I just can't see Him attending while at the same time saying, "I don't approve of your lifestyle, but I love you and I dearly want an invite and here's a gift."

I don't see Jesus doing that....how can that be a wrong assesment? I'm sincerely asking for anyone to explain that to me.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Oh I understand, and was responding rhetorically.

As to your born/unborn question here... there is really no difference. especially since they are now killing babies that can easily live outside the womb without the aid of the mother (and very often are still alive when removed)

Oh, I agree. That's why you'll never, ever hear me say or see me write the word "fetus". It de-humanizes the child in the womb or just partially out or completely out of the womb.
That word was deliberatly chosen by that motley crew who brought us this miserable law of the land. But, that's another story....

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

You're stretching this about a thousand miles out of context. That is directly given as instruction to an individual concerning their personal behavior.

yeah, personal behavior towards others.



7Be not ye therefore partakers with THEM



7So do not associate or be sharers with them. AMP


7Be not ye therefore fellow-partakers with them; Darby



6 -7Don't let yourselves get taken in by religious smooth talk. God gets furious with people who are full of religious sales talk but want nothing to do with him. Don't even hang around people like that. The Message

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by sandie

Would Jesus have attended a union of homosexual people and brought gifts?

He would have loved them, no doubt whatsoever....but, I just can't see Him attending while at the same time saying, "I don't approve of your lifestyle, but I love you and I dearly want an invite and here's a gift."

I don't see Jesus doing that....how can that be a wrong assesment? I'm sincerely asking for anyone to explain that to me.

Jesus did something FAR more meaningful than attending the wedding of a gay couple. He did something FAR more meaningful than just attending and watching as we all sinned.

While we were yet sinners? He died for us.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

yeah, personal behavior towards others.



7Be not ye therefore partakers with THEM



7So do not associate or be sharers with them. AMP


7Be not ye therefore fellow-partakers with them; Darby



6 -7Don't let yourselves get taken in by religious smooth talk. God gets furious with people who are full of religious sales talk but want nothing to do with him. Don't even hang around people like that. The Message

All this, no matter what translation you appeal to, is an instruction for our personal behavior.

"Don't participate in the things these people do." (Eph 5:7 NLT)

And the entire discourse is wrapped up in verse 15-17:

"So be careful how you live, not as fools but as those who are wise.
Make the most of every opportunity for doing good in these evil days.
Don't act thoughtlessly, but try to understand what the Lord wants you to do."

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Jesus did something FAR more meaningful than attending the wedding of a gay couple. He did something FAR more meaningful than just attending and watching as we all sinned.

While we were yet sinners? He died for us.

No doubt.
That truth drops me to my knees.