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Old 09-24-2014, 09:30 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Brother, I have witness these men trying to throw the Malachi 3 curse (of the Law) on the saints for 35 years...they are loony to think that the Lord will curse his Bride....LOL
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:38 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

I do think we ought to factor in gas money in our giving, whether tithing or not. You don't necessarily have to, but if money's tight, I don't see why not.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:04 PM
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I do think we ought to factor in gas money in our giving, whether tithing or not. You don't necessarily have to, but if money's tight, I don't see why not.
You know these pro-tithing people ain't trying to hear that? They want cash money! Not fruit, not vegetables, not gas, not time, THEY WANT $$$! No money then you are cursed with a curse.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:27 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

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For the record, our family stopped "tithing" several years ago after prayerfully studying the subject out, and realizing that GIVING was the message sown throughout the NT writings. So, we began to give generously, in many ways, more than 10% would ever count, because we donate our time, our help, and certainly our dollars. There have been many family and friends who were in need who we sent $$ to anonymously because we didn't want them to feel beholden to us, and because we just wanted to be a blessing. We give to local charities, and to people in the community going through tough times. We are part of a home fellowship, and all who are part of our fellowship do the same thing. We all help those around us in need, and certainly we help each other too. Many times I have fed families in our fellowship because they weren't able to eat decently. I give much of my garden produce away, and my house is open to any kid in the neighborhood who needs a meal. It is a rare occasion when our family has a meal without another child present who has no mother to cook healthy meals for them.

You see... giving is an attitude, and a way of life... and it is not a mandated duty, but a blessing to be a part of the kingdom of the Lord, helping others wherever and however we can.
That's how I view giving. I don't look for excuses not to have to give. I simply want to give.

And I am not rich at all but I enjoy giving and blessing others. And on that note I wish I had more money to give not just in helping others but also blessing my Pastor

Several times I ended up in ER with a blood infection and late at night and he met me in ER and prayed

He also came to see me and pray, and did not mind that I was so out of it that did not even really acknowledge him there.

Thank God for someone that can drop everything and go to the ER near midnight
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:20 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

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That's how I view giving. I don't look for excuses not to have to give. I simply want to give.

And I am not rich at all but I enjoy giving and blessing others. And on that note I wish I had more money to give not just in helping others but also blessing my Pastor

Several times I ended up in ER with a blood infection and late at night and he met me in ER and prayed

He also came to see me and pray, and did not mind that I was so out of it that did not even really acknowledge him there.

Thank God for someone that can drop everything and go to the ER near midnight
Giving is not measured by how much you have given, or how much you have left, but by how willing you are to give. The widow gave her mite, and the Lord said that was more blessed than those who gave huge sums of money. Continue the giving principle, because that is certainly NT principle.

I'm glad that your pastor was there for you when you needed prayer.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:00 PM
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I have a 9'x9' tent they could have set up on church property. Next to the vacant house if that is ok?
I don't think the tent would have been allowed because the vacant house is on the same property as the nice big church building and the tent would not fit the view this particular church likes to present to the hundreds of vehicles that drive past every week.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:39 PM
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Giving is not measured by how much you have given, or how much you have left, but by how willing you are to give. The widow gave her mite, and the Lord said that was more blessed than those who gave huge sums of money. Continue the giving principle, because that is certainly NT principle.

I'm glad that your pastor was there for you when you needed prayer.
Exactly and amen!
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:10 AM
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Brother, I have witness these men trying to throw the Malachi 3 curse (of the Law) on the saints for 35 years...they are loony to think that the Lord will curse his Bride....LOL
Tithing to avoid the curse replaces the work of the cross that Galatians teaches has removed the curse.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:13 AM
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Personally I believe we screwed up big time by having a class of believers called ministry and the other class just the sheeple.

We should have been training and expecting EVERYONE to be a minister.

If someone needs to be baptized why wait for Pastor Joe to get done flipping hamburgers?

No where in the bible does it stipulate who can or can't baptize does it?
Now you just went and tipped another sacred cow!
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:26 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?

Rereading the anti-tithing posts on here makes me really cringe about how little people love God. I am serious. God can have everything but our money. Oh no! That's MY money, and heaven knows that church doesn't need My money. I mean, after all, why should I give MY money to a church...

Because tithing is giving unto the Lord. Folks, don't let these anti-tithing thieves rob you of the principle of tithing. It is a principle that was established before the Law, continued in the Law, and encouraged in the New Covenant as a work of Abraham. When these anti-tithers stand before God, they will stand with stained garments, because they held back from God and encouraged others to do so. God must be first in our lives, including in our finances. When we put anything before God, we become idolaters, plain and simple.

I don't care what people say, God should be first in the believers lives, in every area. Paying tithes is a blessed worshipful experience, and I promise you, those who do so by faith will not go without. Those who refuse to put God first, I question seriously their salvation. Every anti-tithing excuse I have read on here is purely carnal in nature, even when they manipulate scripture in order to do so. Discern it according to the Word and Spirit. Their entire reasoning for not tithing is because they do not want to give up their money, because they have the nerve to think it is their's. Straightforward, if we do not surrender all to Jesus, He is not truly Lord of our lives. Those who are anti-tithing do not have Jesus as Lord over all, and have Him, in their minds, sharing the throne with themselves.

IN one call, all those who are against tithing, they need to find a place of repentance for not putting God first. As a former anti-tither myself, I had to repent of many things, and this included not tithing. Those do not tithe are not putting God first. Jesus is worthy of the first and best, not leftovers of what you feel you should.
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