The Persecution of Women in the Church

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

blessings to you...

You have blessed us, thank you.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

You obviously have serious issues with women. Why are you so insecure in your manhood?

I thought what he said was meant tongue in cheek.

[ILG]

Its waaaayy to hard for me to keep up with this thread.

I watched a foriegn film the other night that I would recommend for people to watch. It's an Iranian film called Leila. It is about a happily married man and woman who find out they cannot have children and because of pressure from the mil, he takes a second wife and the devastation that follows. Those who are against "feminism"...maybe they would like to live like this??

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ILG

Its waaaayy to hard for me to keep up with this thread.

I watched a foriegn film the other night that I would recommend for people to watch. It's an Iranian film called Leila. It is about a happily married man and woman who find out they cannot have children and because of pressure from the mil, he takes a second wife and the devastation that follows. Those who are against "feminism"...maybe they would like to live like this??

stupidity is no excuse for more stupidity.

having 2 wives is stupid.

so is feminism.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Ferd

stupidity is no excuse for more stupidity.

having 2 wives is stupid.

so is feminism.

Feminism is giving the same rights to women that men have. Like having your spouse only married to you.

Originally Posted by Ferd

stupidity is no excuse for more stupidity.

having 2 wives is stupid.

so is feminism.

You wouldn't be calling father Abraham stupid would you...

[Scott Hutchinson]

I don't know a whole lot but isn't Gloria Steinheim sort of the founder of the modern feminist movement ? Doesn't feminism go agains't Biblical principals ?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I don't know a whole lot but isn't Gloria Steinheim sort of the founder of the modern feminist movement ? Doesn't feminism go agains't Biblical principals ?

There are different types of feminism. There is the mild type like equal pay for equal wok, allowing women to vote and such like. Then there is the radical feminism that no Christian can readily agree with espousing abortion and the domination of women.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by ILG

There are different types of feminism. There is the mild type like equal pay for equal wok, allowing women to vote and such like. Then there is the radical feminism that no Christian can readily agree with espousing abortion and the domination of women.

Thank you as I didn't know there were different schools of thought on the subject ?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Thank you as I didn't know there were different schools of thought on the subject ?

Yes, sociologists break it down into three different types.

1. Liberal Feminism which contains reproductive freedom (this might mean birth control all the way to abortion), shared responsibilities for men and women in child rearing, maternity leave. LF's support the family as a social institution but believe that families must support the ambitions of both men and women. LB's do not believe women need to march toward any single political goal.

I think most Christians who want any equal rights for women at all fit into this category minus abortion rights.

2. Socialist Feminism believes that capitolism and patriarchy oppresses women. They believe the family must be transformed. They want to transfer the economy into a state-centered system by ending "domestic slavery".

3. Radical Feminism thinks that the root of sexual oppression lies in gender iteself. They want to separate women's bodies from the process of childrearing and want the entire family system to be left behind. Parenting would be the responsibility of society as a whole rather than on individuals. Children's rights are important to this structure. Norms that favor heterosexuality over homosexuality and demands that sex take place only within marriage must be abolished.

As you can see, radical feminism has made a lot of inroads into our society. I think most Christians are very opposed to radical feminism, but most Christians are for liberal feminism as long as abortion is not included.

I got these definitions from Sociology 5th edition by John J. Macionis