There Has Been A Change

Originally Posted by triumphant1

How about this qoute...your assessment of the music at camp:




Did the La dist camp "New age chant"? If they did, was it devil influenced?

Did I say that?????

I don't THINK so.

Ever have a disagreement with your wife? Did the disagreement arise from you misquoting or misperceiving what she said? You might need to give that area some attention.

[Thumper]

Oh brother,

Now I'm laughing out loud. This thread is absolutely a riot.

CR and T1, you have way more tenacity than I will ever have. Kudos to you. I don't have a dog in the fight so I'll let you guys just duke it out until someone finally drops but speaking from past experience you are going to type calouses on your finger if you expect anything but accusation then denial then insult then denial then accusation then denial etc etc etc.

At least its not us mean and hateful ultra cons that are supposedly beating him up.

LOL

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

You are still having a very hard time, T1.

Those words that you highlighted in bold of my post, were general statements, not made directly to the service on any of the two nights that I was there.

For instance I said, "The devil can steal our music..." I did not say that the devil was in the music on either of the nights.

I think that you are reading waaaaaay too much in my statements of concern, without really reading and meditating on what was actually said.

But, I perceive that you are an honest man if not perceptive enough to see what is actually said.

I am extremely perceptive.

You were criticizing the service...even mourning it...if I did not understand where you went from concrete to abstract then the burden of poor communication is on you...especially since I am not the only one who saw it that way.

Your statements were made in correlation toyou buying black shirts and wearing them as some kind of Old Testament prophetic example! And you don't think that your words concerning worship and the prophet could not be seen as a direct response to the camp you are mourning?

Brother...the camp was what your thread was about! And your statements aout it are what the other subsequent threads are about. So before you start saying that I have been less than perceptive, maybe you should recognize that you have been less than clear on!

How were those of us supposed to guess where you were and where you were not talking about the spirit you were mourning over in the camp?

[Dan]

WOW! I am amused. Either we are all dumb or you cannot read what you wrote in the very first post.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Did I say that?????

I don't THINK so.

Ever have a disagreement with your wife? Did the disagreement arise from you misquoting or misperceiving what she said? You might need to give that area some attention.

It is your post brother...

And you said this during a conversation about the LA Dist camp, the prophet that spoke there, and the worship transpiring there....

What else were we supposed to think?

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Dan

WOW! I am amused. Either we are all dumb or you cannot read what you wrote in the very first post.

I am blown away by the level of denial here...

It's like my boy getting caught with the crumbs on his chin and between his teeth but denying he ate the cookie....

[Dan]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am blown away by the level of denial here...

It's like my boy getting caught with the crumbs on his chin and between his teeth but denying he ate the cookie....

I agree. Oh well, I guess his memory is bad.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Dan

I agree. Oh well, I guess his memory is bad.

Amen!

[South of I 90]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am blown away by the level of denial here...

It's like my boy getting caught with the crumbs on his chin and between his teeth but denying he ate the cookie....

I think you guys got the "demonic" thing somewhat squared away.

Let's see how Elder Strange is going back out of this one.

If he wasn't talking about the music at this service, why did he even bring it up!!

The music wasn't an initial issue with the prophet or prophecy!

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am extremely perceptive.

You were criticizing the service...even mourning it...if I did not understand where you went from concrete to abstract then the burden of poor communication is on you...especially since I am not the only one who saw it that way.

Perhaps you did not see where I went from specifics to general statements. At least you did not see where I attributed what I felt in general to the specifics of either of those two nights. My general statements were in regard to what I've seen thoughout Apostolicism in the past few years.

I was once in an Apostolic church where the sound was almost Death Metal or maybe like Marilyn Manson sound. I noticed one young lady shucking and jiving as hard and vigorously as she could to it. The words were almost indiscernable. After service, I noticed the same young lady in her car with an (what I thought to be) an Alice cooper CD cranked up realy high. She was still shucking and jiving to THAT TOO. Words of a song did not matter to her...IT WAS THE SOUND.

Now, none of the statements above related to the services either of the two nights that I was at camp.

Your statements were made in correlation toyou buying black shirts and wearing them as some kind of Old Testament prophetic example! And you don't think that your words concerning worship and the prophet could not be seen as a direct response to the camp you are mourning?

I only bought ONE black shirt...not plural. See how things get screwed up?

Further, I don't know of any O.T. prophets that wore black shirts. Black is a modern expression of mourning.

Brother...the camp was what your thread was about! And your statements aout it are what the other subsequent threads are about. So before you start saying that I have been less than perceptive, maybe you should recognize that you have been less than clear on!

I don't know how I could be any more clear.

How were those of us supposed to guess where you were and where you were not talking about the spirit you were mourning over in the camp?

But then, maybe I could have stated specifically which comments were directed toward the camp and which were in general. But, who would have guessed that it would not be perceived? As a reader, I would have had no problem with it. Unless, the text specifically stated that a comment was directly related to the camp, it was not. There is a wide range of experinece noted in the text, some of which is of a general nature.