Angels reproducing with humans possible?

[Sean]

Sorry Prax(for being graphic), I dont think the angels were fully formed under their garments(if you know what I mean)...LOL

[Sean]

Btw guys, there are no EVIL angels recorded in the Bible that could morph into human resemblances.

This is a divine miracle when it happens.(only to righteous angels)

If this miracle is to cause the fall of man by GOD forming angels to have sex with women, then GOD created the problem.(God tempted man)

All evil angels could EVER do is transform themselves into "light" angels or possess folks and animals...thats it!

[shazeep]

well, it strikes me that calling fallen angels "sons of God" is on a par with reckoning Cain's descendants as "ha Adam," so...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sean

Sorry Prax(for being graphic), I dont think the angels were fully formed under their garments(if you know what I mean)...LOL

LOL

I can see what you're a saying, but can you find any "biblical evidence" for this notion. Angels could eat, wrestle, etc. When they took on the form of a human being, it was a "human" form.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sean

Btw guys, there are no EVIL angels recorded in the Bible that could morph into human resemblances.

Sean, if Genesis 6 is indeed speaking about fallen angels having taken physical form as humans, then yes, the Bible has recorded this instance.

It is also important to note that God took this VERY seriously. We read...

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

It would appear that the angels that sinned in this manner were bound until the day of judgment. That's why we don't see it again in the Scriptures.

But here is a side question. If these angels are "bound" until the day of judgment, what sin did they commit? Not even Satan is bound in this manner. So clearly, they did something that not even Satan himself has done. What was it???

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sean

Loren, were the angels naked?

What makes you think the men of the city could have seen if they had something to rape(under their garments)?

I mean, did these angels use the outhouse?

Did Jesus use the outhouse those 40 days after the resurrection before He ascended(after eating with His disciples?)...He appeared human.


Is there an outhouse in heaven...LOL

If an angel took on a human form and ate dinner with you... and remained in that form for at least 24 hours, I'd imagine that the human form they had taken would indeed need to relieve itself. However, if they chose to return to "spirit", they'd no longer be in a human form, and therefore they wouldn't need outhouses in Heaven.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If an angel took on a human form and ate dinner with you... and remained in that form for at least 24 hours, I'd imagine that the human form they had taken would indeed need to relieve itself.

On what grounds? They have angel food in heaven. Are their toilets in heaven?

Psa 78:25 KJV Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.

Is the food necessary for angels to be alive like it is for humans? I doubt it. There's so many things not explained that it is futile to try to. Who said the food was not for taste alone for the angels? Or to prove they can physically manifest as with the case of Jesus? Did Jesus have to use a toilet after he arose in a physically glorified body and ate honeycomb?

Luk 24:39-43 KJV Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (40) And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. (41) And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? (42) And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. (43) And he took it, and did eat before them.


The problem is we start to try to bring conclusions to things the bible mentioned but for which never provided conclusions. And, yes, it's neat and fascinating. But it's not concluded in the bible as such. So, leave it alone. Leave it silent where the bible is silent, and let's not try to fill in the blanks the bible leaves between its lines.

Stay in the lines.

Three's too much teaching that is detailed to study than for us spend our time to go to inconclusive imaginative thoughts.

[shazeep]

well wadr the text sure seems to imply that fallen angels went in to women, some kind of way, and begat giants; which is hard to imagine Adam's descendants doing with, essentially, Adam's other descendants.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well wadr the text sure seems to imply that fallen angels went in to women, some kind of way, and begat giants; which is hard to imagine Adam's descendants doing with, essentially, Adam's other descendants.

I always noted form the start giants were incidentally noted to be there before we read of mighty ones being begotten.

Gen 6:4 KJV There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

It seems to me to be saying the children were men of renown, not giants. That's how I always read it.

John Gill notes the same thing.

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days,.... That is, in the days before the sons of God took the daughters of men for wives, in such a general manner as before declared, or before the declension and apostasy became so universal;

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

On what grounds? They have angel food in heaven. Are their toilets in heaven?
Psa 78:25 KJV Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.
Is the food necessary for angels to be alive like it is for humans? I doubt it. There's so many things not explained that it is futile to try to. Who said the food was not for taste alone for the angels? Or to prove they can physically manifest as with the case of Jesus? Did Jesus have to use a toilet after he arose in a physically glorified body and ate honeycomb
Luk 24:39-43 KJV Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (40) And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. (41) And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? (42) And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. (43) And he took it, and did eat before them.
The problem is we start to try to bring conclusions to things the bible mentioned but for which never provided conclusions. And, yes, it's neat and fascinating. But it's not concluded in the bible as such. So, leave it alone. Leave it silent where the bible is silent, and let's not try to fill in the blanks the bible leaves between its lines.
Stay in the lines.
Three's too much teaching that is detailed to study than for us spend our time to go to inconclusive imaginative thoughts.

Beloved, you would have more success crying in the wilderness!