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10-24-2007, 04:39 PM
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An elder was charged with oversight of the flock.
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I thought that was a pastor?
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10-24-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I thought that was a pastor? 
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the term elder and pastor are exssentually the same in the bible
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10-24-2007, 04:41 PM
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It is quite clear that the early church had multiple elders for each local chruch. These elders were the bishops of the church charged to take the oversight and feed the flock.
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TS, why does it matter what those multiple elders are CALLED? LOL! You aren't really making any points here.
If there's a pastor with an ASSISTANT or several assistants or co-pastors or different staff members...aren't they all basically elders in the church? Why do you care what they are called? Would you be happier if the co-pastor was called an elder?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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10-24-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NightOwl
the term elder and pastor are exssentually the same in the bible
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Yes Bishop,Pastor,Elder are synonymous words in the bible.
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10-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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TS, why does it matter what those multiple elders are CALLED? LOL! You aren't really making any points here.
If there's a pastor with an ASSISTANT or several assistants or co-pastors or different staff members...aren't they all basically elders in the church? Why do you care what they are called? Would you be happier if the co-pastor was called an elder?
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only if they had the same level of authority, Seems when there are multiple pastors today, there is one that is in charge and the others were under him.
I don't see senior elders in the Bible and others under him, The churches had multiple elders running it not a senior elder with jr elders under him
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10-24-2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I thought that was a pastor? 
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a pastor is an elder.
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10-24-2007, 05:03 PM
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only if they had the same level of authority, Seems when there are multiple pastors today, there is one that is in charge and the others were under him.
I don't see senior elders in the Bible and others under him, The churches had multiple elders running it not a senior elder with jr elders under him
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exactly. no such thing as co anything in the bible.
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10-25-2007, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
exactly. no such thing as co anything in the bible.
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There is co-death with Jesus, co-burial and co-resurrection Why, there is ever co-ascension and co-seating with Him in heavenly places. And there is so much co-operation, I cannot begin to show where.
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10-25-2007, 02:46 AM
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Did you read this:
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Yeah, but it said nothing about deacons.
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10-25-2007, 02:47 AM
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An elder was charged with oversight of the flock.
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What is a deacon?
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