Preserving the Institution of Marriage

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rudy

So God did not appoint Hitler?

With that thought process you are certainly to be commended in YOUR commitment not to vote!!! Thanks from those of us who care, and a choose to exercise the right that GOD has given citizens of this country to elect their government.

And you are totally ignoring the question-- Is it impossible for a voter to be an instrument of God?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I can't see God appointing a Anti-Semite like Hitler in office.
Satan fell from His estate due to his rebellion.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Of course God allowed this government to exist. That's what i've been saying. You feel without the vote God is helpless.

Actually it is you who sounds helpless my Calvinistic friend.

By YOUR logic God has absolute control, and by YOUR logic that control extends to our form of election, and by YOUR logic therefore we should vote

Originally Posted by James Griffin

So you oppose introducing legislature which would recognize same sex marriages? Since that would be adding a rule an all. By your logic we need to leave the status quo alone.

You are talking about 2 different kingdoms. Jesus said that his kingdom was not of this world. So what kingdom do you live in? If this one, then follow on. But I choose to live in the kingdom of my personal savior. And he commands me to love. all other commands are done when we simply love. The lost are not one by how much theology we can give them. they are one win we love them. After they are one, God will lead them into all truth. But it will not be rules. It will be relationship.

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I can't see God appointing a Anti-Semite like Hitler in office.
Satan fell from His estate due to his rebellion.

Scott Hutchenson,

God can sit up someone like Hitler up for a season just as he sit up Pharoh.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

With that thought process you are certainly to be commended in YOUR commitment not to vote!!! Thanks from those of us who care, and a choose to exercise the right that GOD has given citizens of this country to elect their government.

And you are totally ignoring the question-- Is it impossible for a voter to be an instrument of God?

All things are possible with God--your reasoning is that God is not able of putting into office whom he chooses without the help of man. Do you absolutely know who God wants into office?

Did God make a mistake when he appointed the judges that allowed abortion?? yes/no

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by UltraLib

You are talking about 2 different kingdoms. Jesus said that his kingdom was not of this world. So what kingdom do you live in? If this one, then follow on. But I choose to live in the kingdom of my personal savior. And he commands me to love. all other commands are done when we simply love. The lost are not one by how much theology we can give them. they are one win we love them. After they are one, God will lead them into all truth. But it will not be rules. It will be relationship.

Ultralib wins. Ban the penal code, let chaos reign!!!

Seriously you oppose voting?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I agree we should love those in sin but I think we should vote and get involved in the political process, to me that is part of being salt and light.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I can't see God appointing a Anti-Semite like Hitler in office.
Satan fell from His estate due to his rebellion.

The word of God makes it clear that he and he alone appoints all authority.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rudy

All things are possible with God--your reasoning is that God is not able of putting into office whom he chooses without the help of man. Do you absolutely know who God wants into office?

Did God make a mistake when he appointed the judges that allowed abortion?? yes/no

Perhaps God chose to punish us for a season because of persons who chose not to vote?