Preaching Evil Attitudes

[Coonskinner]

Folks, this will never end.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Seems to me the biblical mode would be to just forgive him and move on...find a man in the church. Was she preaching to godly women who just lost a godly man?

essentially she was hitting the "move on" part...

forgiveness doesn't always eliminate all the hurt that is left...

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

I definately think that she could have said it better... but there is a wide gap between "she could have said it better" and "its an evil worldly attitude", ya know?

I think you're way to scared of the words "evil" and "worldly"...she is teaching worldliness, and I think teaching women something contrary to the word of God IS evil. I don't think its her intention, and like I said, the events in her personal life probably tainted what she had to say, but nevertheless, its in opposition to God's Word, appeals to the flesh, and therefore "worldly" and "evil" are apt descriptions.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree.

I can't imagine diatribe like this coming from Nona Freeman or Vesta Mangun or other godly women.

Not in a million years.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

essentially she was hitting the "move on" part...

forgiveness doesn't always eliminate all the hurt that is left...

I think you'd be a lot less positive if this were a UPCI woman speaking at a UPCI Ladies' Conference.

This message is Drivel. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think you're way to scared of the words "evil" and "worldly"...she is teaching worldliness, and I think teaching women something contrary to the word of God IS evil. I don't think its her intention, and like I said, the events in her personal life probably tainted what she had to say, but nevertheless, its in opposition to God's Word, appeals to the flesh, and therefore "worldly" and "evil" are apt descriptions.

like I said, though, how??

Telling women to have self-confidence? I don't see how that is un-Biblical...

Telling women who's husbands left them to move on and stop pining for him pathetically? Again, not seeing how that isn't Biblical...

Telling people to have some confidence in themselves? Again, you can't be meek if you have no self-confidence...

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think you're way to scared of the words "evil" and "worldly"...she is teaching worldliness, and I think teaching women something contrary to the word of God IS evil. I don't think its her intention, and like I said, the events in her personal life probably tainted what she had to say, but nevertheless, its in opposition to God's Word, appeals to the flesh, and therefore "worldly" and "evil" are apt descriptions.

This is exactly right.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

See, that makes sense...

I don't completely agree with you, but I think there was probably more "in-your-face" to it than is good...

But how else do you get those messages she was trying to get across to people??

I mean, aren't there situations where being meek and denying self is bad? Isn't there a point where those good things become too much of a good thing?

Wouldn't this point make her message rather counterproductive - perhaps even "worldly?"

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think you'd be a lot less positive if this were a UPCI woman speaking at a UPCI Ladies' Conference.

This message is Drivel. Plain and simple.

I'm not positive about it, I just think we're massively overstating how bad what she is saying is because its easy to rip on her...

it is mostly motivational-speaking drivel, it is mostly meaningless, and most of it is just going to get people to applaud and go buy the book (even though they'll never read it)... But the thing is that there are women in that audience who need to hear what she said...

I think the biggest issue is that the audience is much larger than the target audience....

[Coonskinner]

Everybody does a lot of feeling; some folks mistake it for thinking.