The Source of Most Church Problems

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

DT, I loved those men and their families. I babysat those preachers kids. I still have contact with some of the kids and the wife of the second pastor. It breaks my heart to see them as they are now. And I'm not talking about outward appearance...I'm talking about the obvious bitterness, the hatred of God and the church, the messed up lives, and the children they are passing this on to.

Lady rev i know you did, and i feel the same way, a great sadness for what has happened as a result of the sin of the pastor in this case, god bless you, hang in there, you have a good man now for a pastor, dt

[Nahum]

For the record.

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Families, and the church, struggle when men are lazy and refuse to support the family unit they helped create. We suffer when women attempt to usurp spiritual leadership and authority. We suffer when children dictate the direction and mood of the home.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

For the record.

Families, and the church, struggle when men are lazy and refuse to support the family unit they helped create. We suffer when women attempt to usurp spiritual leadership and authority. We suffer when children dictate the direction and mood of the home.

Its a good thing that I understand how you believe about women preachers...or I'd have to bark some more and I don't really want to go barking down that road today.

[Nahum]

I don't have a problem with women preachers....





who are submitted to their husbands!

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I don't have a problem with women preachers....





who are submitted to their husbands!

Yes, I knew that.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The worst problems in the church I pastor can be traced to a perversion of the original roles God intended men, women, and children to play.

Families, and the church, struggle when men are lazy and refuse to support the family unit they helped create. We suffer when women attempt to usurp spiritual leadership and authority. We suffer when children dictate the direction and mood of the home.

It grieves me to see the family unit under attack by well-meaning individuals within the church. These folks have fallen for a perverted worldview that despises masculine leadership and pastoral authority.

In the overwhelming majority of motion picture and television content, Hollywood, with the full force of it's bully-puplit, assaults the nuclear family unit. An agenda is quite obvious. The agenda is to promote "individualism" in the hopes of separating families from each other.

This is why sitcoms usually portray men as bumbling boobs who are incapable of rational thought. This is why women are normally shown as intellectually superior. This is why parents often defer to the greater wisdom of nine year old children in most Disney programming.

Make no mistake about it, the nuclear family is an endangered species. All because love has no strings attached, parents are friends instead of teachers, and the only men worthy of respect are limp-wristed, effeminate metrosexuals.

I totally agree and would even go as far to say that the perversion of the roles is the source of most problems. I don't however think it is just because of TV. There are many other reasons that they are perverted...one being peer pressure.

[Dimples]

Originally Posted by Felicity

This is only the truth ..... with the exception of men with a "jezebel spirit" if there is such a thing. I think you all know what is meant by it anyhow. They can also be at the root of church problems.

Ever hear tell of control and manipulation?

Seems there was a big to do over this word before.

You and the ladies rumbled a bit.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by revrandy

I have heard it said too few times...

Two issues the church refuses to deal with or teach correctly...

Money & Sex...

Not many amening you here brother. But do you need an amen when you're speaking the Truth?

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The worst problems in the church I pastor can be traced to a perversion of the original roles God intended men, women, and children to play.

Families, and the church, struggle when men are lazy and refuse to support the family unit they helped create. We suffer when women attempt to usurp spiritual leadership and authority. We suffer when children dictate the direction and mood of the home.

It grieves me to see the family unit under attack by well-meaning individuals within the church. These folks have fallen for a perverted worldview that despises masculine leadership and pastoral authority.

In the overwhelming majority of motion picture and television content, Hollywood, with the full force of it's bully-puplit, assaults the nuclear family unit. An agenda is quite obvious. The agenda is to promote "individualism" in the hopes of separating families from each other.

This is why sitcoms usually portray men as bumbling boobs who are incapable of rational thought. This is why women are normally shown as intellectually superior. This is why parents often defer to the greater wisdom of nine year old children in most Disney programming.

Make no mistake about it, the nuclear family is an endangered species. All because love has no strings attached, parents are friends instead of teachers, and the only men worthy of respect are limp-wristed, effeminate metrosexuals.

so...

how then do we fix it?

and let's take Hollyweird out of the mix, they offer no help to the situation only muddy the waters.

How do we fix this?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Theresa

so...

how then do we fix it?

and let's take Hollyweird out of the mix, they offer no help to the situation only muddy the waters.

How do we fix this?

1. Men need to be men. They need to get and keep a job, quit two-timing their wives, and spend some time building a relationship with their kids.

2. Women need to stay home and take care of the kids, quit trying to manipulate their husbands and pastors, and develop a meek spirit.

3. Kids need to be loved and disciplined. The two are not mutually exclusive! They should see see the implementation of a consistent set of house rules that never waver.

I'll think of more later.