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Old 09-01-2007, 11:15 PM
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The principle is that the marriage bed is undefiled ....and that we should enter his presence with thanksgiving and with pure hearts ...

If you are going to focus on this one ritual ... because you're a modern-day Levite then you need to start following the host of others ...
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Folks,

I believe we are getting too plain, and saying to much in mixed company.

Please consider what you are posting, and its appropriateness.
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God prefers obedience over our self-denial and sacrifice. God says not to deny our spouses. ... I'm not going to follow all the ceremonial washings and rituals the Levites performed because well ... NEWSFLASH ... those days are over ... our High Priest allows me too.

As Sister Alvear ... has said we've made church attendance and our "appearances of piety" on church days the focus ... We are the temple of the LIVING GOD EVERY DAY.
BTW to me this is a sort of oxymoron...God prefers obedience over our self-denial and sacrifice? Isn't obedience to Him self denial and sacrifice?

However, we are not required to obey the rituals of the Old Testament. Why would someone need a ritual cleansing for sex when we are cleansed by the blood of Jesus?
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The old test. talked about stoning the disobedient child...
By keeping OT laws we make the NT of non effect...
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Lev 15:2-5: ...When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean...and whosoever toucheth his bed shall wash his clothes and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
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Folks,

I believe we are getting too plain, and saying to much in mixed company.

Please consider what you are posting, and its appropriateness.
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Lev 15:2-5: ...When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean...and whosoever toucheth his bed shall wash his clothes and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

THIS EQUATES TO NOT TOUCHING YOUR SPOUSE ON CHURCH DAYS?
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your right Matthew it is getting toooooooooooooooooo plain....
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THIS EQUATES TO NOT TOUCHING YOUR SPOUSE ON CHURCH DAYS?
"having an issue" makes you unclean "until the even". How can you enter into the presence of God unclean?
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BTW to me this is a sort of oxymoron...God prefers obedience over our self-denial and sacrifice? Isn't obedience to Him self denial and sacrifice?

However, we are not required to obey the rituals of the Old Testament. Why would someone need a ritual cleansing for sex when we are cleansed by the blood of Jesus?
Oh ... c'mon Praxeas ... OXYMORON??? .. you know your bible ... I'm know you like red herrings I'll throw these passages out and I'll let you chew on it ... there will be no follow-up on my part.

I said this in context of people who believe their sacrifice ALONE will get God's attention.

1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

Psalm 50

[8] I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, to have been continually before me.
[9] I will take no bullock out of thy house, nor he goats out of thy folds.
[10] For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
[11] I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine. [1]
[12] If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
[13] Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?
[14] Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High:
[15] And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.



Psalm 40
How numerous, O LORD, my God, you have made your wondrous deeds! And in your plans for us there is none to equal you. Should I wish to declare or tell them, too many are they to recount. 7 3 sacrifice and offering you do not want; but ears open to obedience you gave me. Holocausts and sin-offerings you do not require; 8 so I said, "Here I am; your commands for me are written in the scroll. 9 To do your will is my delight; my God, your law is in my heart!"
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