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Old 02-26-2007, 10:43 AM
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From what I understand, tongues and interpretation are for the edification of the church.

Edification means moral improvement or guidance.
The Greek word for "edification" has the following meanings:
  1. (the act of) building, building up
  2. metaph. edifying, edification
    1. the act of one who promotes another's growth in Christian wisdom, piety, happiness, holiness
  3. a building (i.e. the thing built, edifice)
The Greek word is used four times in 1 Corinthians 14 (14:3, 14:5, 14:12, and 14:26); see also how it is used in 1 Corinthians 3:9; it is used elsewhere in the New Testament as well.
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Old 02-26-2007, 10:44 AM
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The Greek word for "edification" has the following meanings:
  1. (the act of) building, building up
  2. metaph. edifying, edification
    1. the act of one who promotes another's growth in Christian wisdom, piety, happiness, holiness
  3. a building (i.e. the thing built, edifice)
The Greek word is used four times in 1 Corinthians 14 (14:3, 14:5, 14:12, and 14:26); see also how it is used in 1 Corinthians 3:9; it is used elsewhere in the New Testament as well.
Great...I did not post all the meanings...
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:10 AM
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I have been to these meetings and seem people healed as I have been also.
Sometimes I guess we see what we want to see.


I very MUCH wanted to see God move and heal and restore people. That's why I was so very very very disappointed.

I've seen people healed without all the hoopla i.e. saints who can minister in the gifts without the fanfare or the donation.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:11 AM
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Great...I did not post all the meanings...
I don't see how you got "Edification means moral improvement or guidance."
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:11 AM
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Almost sounds like you are speaking evil of a native son of the North country!
Any resemeblance to anyone living or dead is strictly coincidental.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:17 AM
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I have been to these meetings and seem people healed as I have been also.
Sometimes I guess we see what we want to see.


I very MUCH wanted to see God move and heal and restore people. That's why I was so very very very disappointed.

I've seen people healed without all the hoopla i.e. saints who can minister in the gifts without the fanfare or the donation.
I have seen both. God is not limited, we are the ones that limit Him.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:26 AM
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I don't see how you got "Edification means moral improvement or guidance."
Got it off Dictionary.com...I don't think it's such a big deal.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:27 AM
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I have seen both. God is not limited, we are the ones that limit Him.
That's right!
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:27 AM
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You might not would have been comfortable following Jesus then, because there were masses of people coming for healing.

Why shouldn't they be able to do that today?
They can, and they do. Look at the masses of sick people who show up at Benny Hinn crusades. Look at all the people who travel to Brazil to be treated by John of God. There is no shortage of people claiming that miraculous healings are available.

But there is, in my opinion, a huge shortage of people who claim to offer miracles that actually deliver. Herein lies the problem. It is not that there isn't enough faith. It's not that there aren't enough people who believe in the miraculous power of God. It's that there are too many people making promises that, unlike Jesus's promises, do not come to pass. Then they add insult to injury by claiming it was the person's own fault for not getting healed.

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Old 02-26-2007, 11:37 AM
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I know this sounds bad, but I've been around and heard enough over the years to be very skeptic of any prophecy.

If someone were to prophecy to me, I would blow it off unless God gave me a peace about it and confirmed it. Instead of generalities, I would like specifics.

"You will have a great trial come upon you soon, and if you'll put your faith in the Lord, he'll bring you through it!" This has no specifics!

I have great trials on a weekly basis, and the Lord has always brought me through them! I ALREADY KNOW that God will bring me through any trial that comes my way. I don't think I need a prophecy to confirm that! A drunkard can come up to me and prophecy in generalities.

Now, if someone were to come to me and tell me things that the Lord has revealed to them that nobody knew about, they would have my attention!
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