Are Backsliders Required to be Re-baptized?

[stmatthew]

Baptism is the fulfillment of the old testament circumcision. It is the putting away of the flesh. Once this covenant is accomplished, it can never be undone. Do note that circumcision was administered to babies that had no understand the covenant. So understanding water baptism is not a prerequisite to being baptized. The fact is that it was as the children grew that they were taught about their God, and the intricacies of the covenant.

I do not believe there is any biblical president to be re-baptized. On what grounds can faith be planted if the scriptures do not give a resting place for its seed??

[jwharv]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Baptism is the fulfillment of the old testament circumcision. It is the putting away of the flesh. Once this covenant is accomplished, it can never be undone. Do note that circumcision was administered to babies that had no understand the covenant. So understanding water baptism is not a prerequisite to being baptized. The fact is that it was as the children grew that they were taught about their God, and the intricacies of the covenant.

I do not believe there is any biblical president to be re-baptized. On what grounds can faith be planted if the scriptures do not give a resting place for its seed??

Then do you believe in infant baptism?

ChosenOne,

My understanding of the salvation experience is that we are "born again" through faith, repentance, baptism, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. You can no more be unborn in the spirit than you can be unborn in the flesh. When you turned your back on God and went into sin you became a rebellious and insubordinate child but you were still a child of God. You had forfeited your inheritance but you were still a child of God. When you came home you did not need to re-enter the womb to be born again again! You simply needed to come to the father in faith and repentance and be restored to your rightful place... no matter how critical the older brother was or how much he condemned you as being unworthy of restoration!

Walk in the faith of Jesus Christ and the efficacy of your new birth experience!

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

As I wrote, it has been a month of me trying to understand exactly why I have felt the Lord tell me to be re-baptized. I started this thread yesterday in hopes that someone would help me understand. For me, I am to be obedient to the Lord and that is what he has commanded from me. I didn't understand it before, but I can tell you that He is in control and I have felt the anointing and the sweet presence of Jesus to where I can't hardly control the joy that has been flowing from me. I nearly gave up a few weeks ago when I received some bad news. My faith was nearly shattered. But through all of this, God will be glorified and I will live to tell everyone of His loving healing power. Don't count me out...count me blessed.

And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever. 1 John 2:17

Chosen,
A friend told me a true testimony of a person they were close to, who was healed completely in the waters of baptism. I'm still believing and praying for a miracle for you!
Your friend, Rhoni

[Falla39]

I still have a feeling that the prodigal son still wanted a "cleansing"

or a "good bath" even though his father may not have said, "Son, you

smell like a pig pen. Get cleaned up and then you can have the best

robe". No, the father was just so glad his son had returned". He had

no doubt been looking down that long road so long and not only looking

but going a distance, looking, longing, just a glimpse of his son. We know

that because when he was yet a GREAT way off, his father saw him, and

had compassion, and RAN , and fell on his neck, and kissed him. Sounds like

a true father to me. I wonder how many prodigals would come home with

that kind of reception from their father! All the time the son is telling his

father how unworthy he is, even to be called his son. but the father is

telling his servants to get the best robe (represents putting on righteous-

ness). The father tells the servants to put it on him. and put a ring (signet

ring, representing the family name) "For as many of you as have been bapti-

zed into Christ have put on Christ".(Gal.3:27) and put shoes on his feet.

I can almost imagine the son saying, "Father, I really need a bath. I feel

so dirty". He had been welcomed back, but he who had been in a "dirty"

enviroment, wanted to be clean or washed to re-enter the clean enviro-

ment to which he had returned. Can you blame him for wanting a cleansing

bath. It doesn't mention the father saying anything about a bath, but I

can assure you, the son was desiring one!!! (my thoughts!)

Maybe he could have been singing:

I wanna be washed in the Blood of the Lamb,
I need a cleansing from the Fountain.
My soul is hungry from this aching within,
I wanna be washed in the Blood of the Lamb.

So if someone has been handed the best robe, wouldn't YOU

want to be clean before putting it on. (Again, my thoughts)!

Blessings,

Falla39

[jwharv]

Originally Posted by jwharv

Then do you believe in infant baptism?

Bump.......................

[TalkLady]

If this is a deep concern to you and is troubling you, I'd say - talk to your pastor and let him rebaptize you. I've heard of a congregation where it was taught that everytime someone sinned/went to altar/repented - not sure of exact term here - that person was rebaptized. There was a lot of water used in that church.

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

Hello, AFF -

I've been out of pocket during the last few weeks and I've had this question daily on my mind. Now, I learned all the scriptures that support our doctrine; however, I've had trouble discounting the need of being baptized again for the remission of sins after walking away from God and being involved with horrible sin.

I backslid and came back to our merciful Savior, but I've been troubled in my spirit about the need to wash all those sins under the blood through the act of baptism. Has anyone heard of this being practice in our churches?

Any scripturally based answers that you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

chosenbyone

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Baptism is the fulfillment of the old testament circumcision. It is the putting away of the flesh. Once this covenant is accomplished, it can never be undone. Do note that circumcision was administered to babies that had no understand the covenant. So understanding water baptism is not a prerequisite to being baptized. The fact is that it was as the children grew that they were taught about their God, and the intricacies of the covenant.

I do not believe there is any biblical president to be re-baptized. On what grounds can faith be planted if the scriptures do not give a resting place for its seed??

Originally Posted by jwharv

Then do you believe in infant baptism?

No, but I do not believe that the baptisee has to understand all the in's and out's of water baptism in order to obey the commandment. Just as children receive the holy ghost at early ages at times.

[CC1]

The important question is "has anybody rebaptized Michlow yet?"

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Falla39

I still have a feeling that the prodigal son still wanted a "cleansing"

or a "good bath" even though his father may not have said, "Son, you

smell like a pig pen. Get cleaned up and then you can have the best

robe". No, the father was just so glad his son had returned". He had

no doubt been looking down that long road so long and not only looking

but going a distance, looking, longing, just a glimpse of his son. We know

that because when he was yet a GREAT way off, his father saw him, and

had compassion, and RAN , and fell on his neck, and kissed him. Sounds like

a true father to me. I wonder how many prodigals would come home with

that kind of reception from their father! All the time the son is telling his

father how unworthy he is, even to be called his son. but the father is

telling his servants to get the best robe (represents putting on righteous-

ness). The father tells the servants to put it on him. and put a ring (signet

ring, representing the family name) "For as many of you as have been bapti-

zed into Christ have put on Christ".(Gal.3:27) and put shoes on his feet.

I can almost imagine the son saying, "Father, I really need a bath. I feel

so dirty". He had been welcomed back, but he who had been in a "dirty"

enviroment, wanted to be clean or washed to re-enter the clean enviro-

ment to which he had returned. Can you blame him for wanting a cleansing

bath. It doesn't mention the father saying anything about a bath, but I

can assure you, the son was desiring one!!! (my thoughts!)

Maybe he could have been singing:

I wanna be washed in the Blood of the Lamb,
I need a cleansing from the Fountain.
My soul is hungry from this aching within,
I wanna be washed in the Blood of the Lamb.

So if someone has been handed the best robe, wouldn't YOU

want to be clean before putting it on. (Again, my thoughts)!

Blessings,

Falla39

The Sacraments of the Lords Supper and foot washing is what a believer would act upon in order to find a fresh cleansing from the journey.

Water Baptism is a one time experience. As PhilJones has stated, you can never be unborn, so to attempted rebirth would do violence to the Word of God.There remaineth no more sacrifice. It is already accomplished. The fact is that faith needs to be put in the initial work of God. If you can't put faith in the initial work, I seriously doubt that a "second" baptism will do any good.

Again, the crossing of the red sea (baptism unto Moses) was not something that was done multiple times. The earth was only baptized one time (in the flood), with God promising not to do it again with water. Fire was the next baptism the earth would be promised.