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Old 05-01-2019, 08:08 PM
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This is way out there and off subject...
How is asking about the gift of tongues off the subject of wanting to speak in tongues? Do you understand what you're saying when you speak in tongues?

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... you ain’t politically conservative are you? Trump rubs you wrong right? Just curious if I’m right...
Sorry. My understanding of the forum rules prohibits me from interrupting threads by asking for your definition of conservatism, and possibly contradicting your grasp of political reality.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:52 AM
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How is asking about the gift of tongues off the subject of wanting to speak in tongues? Do you understand what you're saying when you speak in tongues?



Sorry. My understanding of the forum rules prohibits me from interrupting threads by asking for your definition of conservatism, and possibly contradicting your grasp of political reality.
I must have hit the nail on the head lol
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:39 AM
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I must have hit the nail on the head lol
You are mistaken. I did that.

"Likewise, was it only the foreigners that knew what the Apostles were saying and that the Apostles were clueless?"

"Similarly, do modern-day Charismatics understand what they're saying when they speak in tongues?"

"Do you understand what you're saying when you speak in tongues?"

Dead silence in a forum meant to answer such questions.

If permitted, I would happily instruct you about political reality in another thread so as to not derail this one.
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:54 AM
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Similarly, do modern-day Charismatics understand what they're saying when they speak in tongues?
if a person is speaking in other tongues that person does not understand. In fact the bible says no man understands.
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:11 AM
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if a person is speaking in other tongues that person does not understand. In fact the bible says no man understands.
Which Scripture are you referring to? So you're saying that the unremarkable foreigners in Acts 2 understood what the Holy Spirit filled Apostles couldn't possibly understand?
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:50 AM
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Which Scripture are you referring to? So you're saying that the unremarkable foreigners in Acts 2 understood what the Holy Spirit filled Apostles couldn't possibly understand?
The Apostles had no idea what they were saying when they were speaking in tongues on the day of Pentecost.

Read 1 Cor 14 it talks about the "gift" of tongues.
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Old 05-02-2019, 09:51 AM
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The Apostles had no idea what they were saying when they were speaking in tongues on the day of Pentecost.

Read 1 Cor 14 it talks about the "gift" of tongues.
I just now reread 1 Corinthians 14. It seems that you interpret it to mean that the Apostles in Acts 2 were not speaking in other tongues and there's no such thing as the interpretation of tongues.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:23 AM
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I just now reread 1 Corinthians 14. It seems that you interpret it to mean that the Apostles in Acts 2 were not speaking in other tongues and there's no such thing as the interpretation of tongues.
Thats not what Im saying, Im not sure how you concluded that.

I believe you are misunderstanding the "gift of tongues" as used in a congregational setting. The gift of tongues is used for the edifying of the Church when paired with interpretation. It is not an ability to speak other earthly languages to communicate the gospel to those that do not understand the local language. In 1 cor you read that he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men but unto God: for no man understands him. Because there is an interpretation of tongues in some cases that does not mean the tongues were of earthly languages.
Just as Acts 2 the Apostles were not speaking earthly languages nor did the hearers have to interpret the tongues. They simply heard they're language being spoken be every man. There were about 18 different groups of people hearing their language being spoken by every man at the same time. This was not just a case of interpreting what was being said.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:01 PM
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Thats not what Im saying, Im not sure how you concluded that.

I believe you are misunderstanding the "gift of tongues" as used in a congregational setting. The gift of tongues is used for the edifying of the Church when paired with interpretation. It is not an ability to speak other earthly languages to communicate the gospel to those that do not understand the local language. In 1 cor you read that he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men but unto God: for no man understands him. Because there is an interpretation of tongues in some cases that does not mean the tongues were of earthly languages.
Just as Acts 2 the Apostles were not speaking earthly languages nor did the hearers have to interpret the tongues. They simply heard they're language being spoken be every man. There were about 18 different groups of people hearing their language being spoken by every man at the same time. This was not just a case of interpreting what was being said.
He/she ain’t misunderstanding any of us but trying to push his/her agenda and convert us. He/she isn’t sincere in the questions that have been asked. I don’t mind someone having a disagreement and discussion but can’t stand dishonest people like Zog.
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:03 PM
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The gift of tongues is used for the edifying of the Church when paired with interpretation.
But how often does that happen? Do you know any tongue interpreters? How many tongue interpreters do you think there are on this forum?
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