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Old 02-03-2018, 05:59 AM
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Re: Pastors. How to paralyze the Hebrew Roots doct

The guy on the video never fully grasped the doctrine if justification by faith alone. The book of Galatians is for him. He will not be found in Christ, but will be found having his OWN righteousness, which is of the law. Sometimes I think we Apostolics are very weak in tis area.

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The guy on the video never fully grasped the doctrine if justification by faith alone. The book of Galatians is for him. He was not be found in Christ, but will be found having his OWN righteousness, which is of the law. Sometimes I think we Apostolics are very weak in tis area.
What I hear from the Evangelical power hitters seems to be a poison given to their followers. I would like to hear your view or any Apostolic's view on the matter of justification by faith alone. I know Evangelicals often call it "salvation by Christ alone".
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We are saved by grace but we are judged by works. The tree is always known by its fruit, and as a man thinks in his heart so is he. Repentance, true heart change, baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and in filled with the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. Going forward walking in newness of life. Saying with are justified by faith, and having no works following, means that the faith isn't faith. Therefore the justification isn't justifying you.
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We are saved by grace but we are judged by works. The tree is always known by its fruit, and as a man thinks in his heart so is he. Repentance, true heart change, baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and in filled with the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. Going forward walking in newness of life. Saying with are justified by faith, and having no works following, means that the faith isn't faith. Therefore the justification isn't justifying you.
I do not think the latter is in dispute. But we must keep in mind that we cannot glory in our fruit. We must glory in the cross. In the end, he is still our only righteousness, and he alone.
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I do not think the latter is in dispute. But we must keep in mind that we cannot glory in our fruit. We must glory in the cross. In the end, he is still our only righteousness, and he alone.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the above. That is the truth.

There is a typo in my post “with” should be “we.”
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It seems that the Hebrew roots movement would conform the believer into the image of ancient Israel, not the image of the glorified Christ Jesus.
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It seems that the Hebrew roots movement would conform the believer into the image of ancient Israel, not the image of the glorified Christ Jesus.
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It seems that the Hebrew roots movement would conform the believer into the image of ancient Israel, not the image of the glorified Christ Jesus.
The glorified Christ Jesus was still a law abiding Jewish man, from the beginning of his life to the his last appearance. :-)
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The Hebrew Roots Movement is the leaven of the Pharisees, baking gentiles into challah for Purim.
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