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Old 01-06-2018, 04:09 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;




Question, how much wine before we are not Spirit filled?


Does the Spirit un-fill us in stages or all at once as we drink wine?


Please answer this.

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Old 01-06-2018, 04:17 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

.....is excessive wine, according to the verse, anti Spirit infilling?

If so, what level of intoxication is when God cannot infill someone.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:20 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

Should someone be prophesying after 1 glass of wine?

2 glasses?

4?
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:01 PM
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Should someone be prophesying after 1 glass of wine?

2 glasses?

4?
I am certainly not an authority on drinking, or being drunk. I’m talking about interpreting scripture. We are really talking about separate issues.
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:10 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

No sir. Just tell me how much wine is needed to not be filled with the Spirit?(per the verse).

It is simple as that.

If you cannot give an amount, then why tinker with not being Spirit filled for some nasty tasting rotten fruit?
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:13 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

Take another look at the verse.

Wine itself is considered excess, or excessive drinking is considered excess?
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:19 PM
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Take another look at the verse.

Wine itself is considered excess, or excessive drinking is considered excess?
Be not drunk with wine. The excess is in or “wherein” the drunkenness, not in the wine.

Am I wrong my brother?
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:24 PM
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No sir. Just tell me how much wine is needed to not be filled with the Spirit?(per the verse).

It is simple as that.

If you cannot give an amount, then why tinker with not being Spirit filled for some nasty tasting rotten fruit?
The amount is exactly however much it takes to be drunk. It may be more for some, less for others. Factors come into play, including body weight, genetics, alcohol content etc..
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:27 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

The, shall we remain Spirit filled instead?
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:29 PM
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Re: Wine vs Grape Juice

Notice the contrast within the verse.
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