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10-19-2016, 08:42 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
ok so i'm mostly curious now how i can make the connection for you that All Muslims Are Lost is how drone bombing etc is justified. Or do you just accept that as given. ty.
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10-19-2016, 09:02 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
You twist everything I say, to something I never meant, and when I clarify it you reject my clarification.
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10-19-2016, 09:21 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
i know it's painful, and i apologize for that. but you have a perception here that is not universal, and you might seek other opinions. For instance the last two posts, which i am not trying to sword fight with you right now, but notice that i just asked an unbiased question, and just want a plain answer, i am not twisting anything. i am trying to develop that i have no interest in forcibly changing your beliefs--as that is up to you, to decide what you believe--but that beliefs have consequences. innocent--well--people die every day because of your beliefs, MB, unlike with many other peoples' beliefs; because your beliefs represent a unique perspective in history. There are no Hare Krishnas in Congress. Have a good day.
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10-19-2016, 09:34 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
And that is a perfect example of twisting what I both believe and say. Until you realize judging is not taking a scripture like Mark 16:16, and saying whoever does not abide by what this says is lost, then we have no chat.
And another thing, I already indicated how I chatted with people like muslims and treated them respectfully and they with me, and saw them end up condemning me to hell when I said not a word about the same to them. You see, you do not understand that when people discuss things in a forum it is not the same as when dealing with people in the public. And no matter how much you think I care not what people think of my views and that I trudge all over them with offences toward them, I sincerely treat people of these religions the way I would be treated, and do not offend at all. I can believe what I believe about their souls, since the scripture clearly state how God will judge them -- showing it's HIS judgment, not mine -- but I am neither making a judgment call nor am I speaking anything offensive about what those beliefs I have are when I speak to them. What goes on in a forum is not what is said publicly before people of various religions.
My belief does not kill anyone. I have said many times, which you also rejected, that anyone who thinks to kill another person for any reason whatsoever is wrong. So when you keep pontificating these statements like you just did about how my belief kills people, it goes to show me you refuse to accept my clarifications and continue to twist my words. And it all started with your misuse of the word JUDGE, and refusal to let someone explain what they mean as you would want someone to explain what you mean if they got you wrong.
Good day.
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10-19-2016, 09:54 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
ok so i'm mostly curious now how i can make the connection for you that All Muslims Are Lost is how drone bombing etc is justified. Or do you just accept that as given. ty.
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Just curious... what does Mark 16:16 mean to you?
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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10-19-2016, 10:00 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
Have I changed?
my beliefs are pretty much unchanged. but I certainly have changed. I'm more interested in being happy and having good relationships with people then I am in being right these days.
I less interested in figuring out who is/isn't on their way to hell then I am in encouraging people to experience more of the love of God. Everyone is in God's hands and his loving care is good.
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10-19-2016, 10:45 AM
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Re: Have you changed?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Have I changed?
my beliefs are pretty much unchanged. but I certainly have changed. I'm more interested in being happy and having good relationships with people then I am in being right these days.
I less interested in figuring out who is/isn't on their way to hell then I am in encouraging people to experience more of the love of God. Everyone is in God's hands and his loving care is good.
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That's good. If we can first introduce people to Jesus Christ with love, when they fall in love with HIM it is then they will be willing and obedient to obey His commandments. It is not our job to police souls but rather point them to Jesus.
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10-19-2016, 06:53 PM
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Re: Have you changed?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Just curious... what does Mark 16:16 mean to you?
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. |
I asked him how Muslims fit into that, and he responded telling me I should be LOOKING TO SEE HOW muslims fit into that, as if they certainly do somehow. Basically, he had no answer for me.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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10-19-2016, 08:25 PM
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Re: Have you changed?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I asked him how Muslims fit into that, and he responded telling me I should be LOOKING TO SEE HOW muslims fit into that, as if they certainly do somehow. Basically, he had no answer for me.
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Well, we are still waiting on Shaz to answer.
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10-19-2016, 11:49 PM
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Re: Have you changed?
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Well, we are still waiting on Shaz to answer.
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Someone's wracking their brains for a good comeback.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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