Happy Birthday, President Reagan

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Didn't know that Reagan was a judge or jury?

(laughing) I guess you must have found those incarceration charts! Were you going to post them to hammer your point home and shut everyone up? Innocently wondering.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You must have missed these during your "reading"

The term was popularized by the media shortly after a press conference given on June 18, 1971, by United States President Richard Nixon—the day after publication of a special message from President Nixon to the Congress on Drug Abuse Prevention and Control—during which he declared drug abuse "public enemy number one".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ws/drugs/cron/

Look what else you missed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs


Shortly after Ronald Reagan became President in 1981 he delivered a speech on the topic. Reagan announced, "We're taking down the surrender flag that has flown over so many drug efforts; we're running up a battle flag." For his first five years in office, Reagan slowly strengthened drug enforcement by creating mandatory minimum sentencing and forfeiture of cash and real estate for drug offenses, policies far more detrimental to poor blacks than any other sector affected by the new laws.

Then, driven by the 1986 cocaine overdose of black basketball star Len Bias, Reagan was able to pass the Anti-Drug Abuse Act through Congress. This legislation appropriated an additional $1.7 billion to fund the War on Drugs. More importantly, it established 29 new, mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses. In the entire history of the country up until that point, the legal system had only seen 55 minimum sentences in total. A major stipulation of the new sentencing rules included different mandatory minimums for powder and crack cocaine. At the time of the bill, there was public debate as to the difference in potency and effect of powder cocaine, generally used by whites, and crack cocaine, generally used by blacks, with many believing that "crack" was substantially more powerful and addictive. Crack and powder cocaine are closely related chemicals, crack being a smokeable, freebase form of powdered cocaine hydrochloride which produces a shorter, more intense high while using less of the drug. This method is more cost effective, and therefore more prevalent on the inner-city streets, while powder cocaine remains more popular in white suburbia. The Reagan administration began shoring public opinion against "crack", encouraging DEA official Robert Putnam to play up the harmful effects of the drug. Stories of "crack whores" and "crack babies" became commonplace; by 1986, Time had declared "crack" the issue of the year. Riding the wave of public fervor, Reagan established much harsher sentencing for crack cocaine, handing down stiffer felony penalties for much smaller amounts of the drug.

Funny. That's what I said when I attributed our achievement of higher incarceration rates than North Korea to Reagan's "removal of the surrender flag". Thank you kindly for the source!

Did you keep reading? It's your source. after all. Seems Reagan's feelings on drugs are in line with his support of evil dictators like Saddam and unlimited weapons supplies to his freedom fighter Osama.

Senator John Kerry's 1988 U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations report on Contra drug links concludes that members of the U.S. State Department "who provided support for the Contras are involved in drug trafficking... and elements of the Contras themselves knowingly receive financial and material assistance from drug traffickers." The report further states that "the Contra drug links include... payments to drug traffickers by the U.S. State Department of funds authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to the Contras, in some cases after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law enforcement agencies on drug charges, in others while traffickers were under active investigation by these same agencies."

Reagan was truly a great and generous man. Weapons and cash to anyone, anywhere, anytime - whoever and wherever they are.

[Walks_in_islam]

2,292,133 prisoners. 743 per 100k - US Bureau of Justice Statistics. World's highest incarceration rate. Around the ME:

Bahrain 1,100 prisoners. 136 per 100k - Ministry of the Interior
Iraq 31,645 prisoners 101 per 100k UN - Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI)
Jordan c. 8,500 prisoners 133 per 100k - US State Dep’t human rights report
Kuwait 4,179 prisoners 137 per 100k - US State Dep’t human rights report
Lebanon 5,122 prisoners 121 per 100k - NPA
Oman 1,403 prisoners 61 per 100k - United Nations 8th Survey
Qatar 551 prisoners 41 per 100k - United Nations 11th Survey
Saudi Arabia 44,600 prisoners 178 per 100k - NPA
Syria 10,599 prisoners 58 per 100k - United Nations 9th Survey
United Arab Emirates 11,193 prisoners 238 per 100k - United Nations 10th Survey

NPA - National Prison Administration of the referenced country.

Yeah, Reagan was a real champion of "freedom". The red commies in Russia (568/100k) and China (122/100k) lock fewer people up than the US does.

Even places where you can get arrested for sitting in the wrong section of a restaurant don't lock people up at the same rates the US does. LOL...........prison, parole, probation is good for the economy - especially since they come with fees.

The only difference between democrats and republicans is that republicans raise money from fees collected through the criminal "justice" system and democrats raise money from higher taxes.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ya, the truth tends to do that to people...

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...0study&es_th=1

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

look, it's not even disputed, ok? Nixon funded a study to smear pot, they discovered it shrank brain tumors, and he shut it down and buried it. Millions and millions of dollars have been invested in your present point of view about pot. it was really about hemp...but that's another thread

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

2,292,133 prisoners. 743 per 100k - US Bureau of Justice Statistics. World's highest incarceration rate. Around the ME:

Bahrain 1,100 prisoners. 136 per 100k - Ministry of the Interior
Iraq 31,645 prisoners 101 per 100k UN - Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI)
Jordan c. 8,500 prisoners 133 per 100k - US State Dep’t human rights report
Kuwait 4,179 prisoners 137 per 100k - US State Dep’t human rights report
Lebanon 5,122 prisoners 121 per 100k - NPA
Oman 1,403 prisoners 61 per 100k - United Nations 8th Survey
Qatar 551 prisoners 41 per 100k - United Nations 11th Survey
Saudi Arabia 44,600 prisoners 178 per 100k - NPA
Syria 10,599 prisoners 58 per 100k - United Nations 9th Survey
United Arab Emirates 11,193 prisoners 238 per 100k - United Nations 10th Survey

NPA - National Prison Administration of the referenced country.

Yeah, Reagan was a real champion of "freedom". The red commies in Russia (568/100k) and China (122/100k) lock fewer people up than the US does.

Even places where you can get arrested for sitting in the wrong section of a restaurant don't lock people up at the same rates the US does. LOL...........prison, parole, probation is good for the economy - especially since they come with fees.

The only difference between democrats and republicans is that republicans raise money from fees collected through the criminal "justice" system and democrats raise money from higher taxes.

Democrats raise money from trial lawyers...
You really have some blinders on, don't you!

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Democrats raise money from trial lawyers...
You really have some blinders on, don't you!

Trial lawyers did not double the number of mandatory sentences in one swoop. Comparing voluntary contributions to involuntary fines and fees from one out of 31 adults is laughable. Next.

[n david]

Still waiting for the pictures of the churches in Saudi Arabia, wii.

What's the delay? Surely since SA is so awesome and free as you claim (and since you're there), you shouldn't have any problem getting some pictures of all the numerous churches in the open, free and Christian tolerant SA.

Of course, I'm being mostly sarcastic. I don't believe you're there, I don't believe most of what you claim.

Now prove me wrong.

[Walks_in_islam]

Same truck, little closer. Anything funny about that truck? Those letters sure look funny to me.

Why don't you zoom in on that license plate and read it for us all.

Moral: I don't give two sticks what you believe or don't believe.

[Walks_in_islam]

Remember the directions to the consulate i got for the crazy church lady? Grabbed a pic of that too since i was down there on saturday. Flag's on the lower left. Sorry about the quality. There was a shammal this weekend.

That's a dust storm.

Anything else? Any other questions?