Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Charnock

That's telling.

There are three kinds of Apostolics.

1. Those who really love God, study His Word, and arrive at traditional Water/Spirit doctrine and standards.

2. Those who really love the Apostolic movement. They love conference and camp meeting preaching that pushes all of movement's hot buttons. They are committed to holding the fort but cannot be bothered to study scripture. They are content with what they have, and have no desire to change. They are proud of their identity and wear it as a badge of honor.

3. Those who really love God, study His Word, and realize that Water/Spirit doctrine and standards are man-made traditions...errors, but also love the Apostolic movement. They are conflicted because they have a high view of the Word and a love for the movement.

In their case, something has to give. Some choose tradition over truth. Others choose truth over tradition.

You fall in Group #2.

Can't be bothered to examine scripture.
Satisfied with your heritage.
Closed to truth.

I love this Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal TRUTH.

My great grandfather was a Baptist preacher, I have three cousins who are Baptist preacher.

I could have easily followed their tradition but chose to study the Word of god for myself. And found that it did not teach what they believed but instead taught what I now believe.

I still study the Word of God daily and pray and fast. I see every thing we teach and the principles for what we teach.

I do attend conf and meetings with like minded men. I go where I know truth is proclaimed. Not going somewhere where the preachers are carnal and worldly an the women look like Jezebels.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Are men's jeans not form-fitting?

NONE of my jeans are form-fitting.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Are men's jeans not form-fitting?

Probably not a valid argument...

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Charnock

That's telling.

There are three kinds of Apostolics.

1. Those who really love God, study His Word, and arrive at traditional Water/Spirit doctrine and standards.

2. Those who really love the Apostolic movement. They love conference and camp meeting preaching that pushes all of movement's hot buttons. They are committed to holding the fort but cannot be bothered to study scripture. They are content with what they have, and have no desire to change. They are proud of their identity and wear it as a badge of honor.

3. Those who really love God, study His Word, and realize that Water/Spirit doctrine and standards are man-made traditions...errors, but also love the Apostolic movement. They are conflicted because they have a high view of the Word and a love for the movement.

In their case, something has to give. Some choose tradition over truth. Others choose truth over tradition.

You fall in Group #2.

Can't be bothered to examine scripture.
Satisfied with your heritage.
Closed to truth.

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

I love this Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal TRUTH.

My great grandfather was a Baptist preacher, I have three cousins who are Baptist preacher.

I could have easily followed their tradition but chose to study the Word of god for myself. And found that it did not teach what they believed but instead taught what I now believe.

I still study the Word of God daily and pray and fast. I see every thing we teach and the principles for what we teach.

I do attend conf and meetings with like minded men. I go where I know truth is proclaimed. Not going somewhere where the preachers are carnal and worldly an the women look like Jezebels.

Like I said, definitely #2, and that stinks.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

NONE of my jeans are form-fitting.

So you wear mom jeans?

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Like I said, definitely #2, and that stinks.

WRONG I came to this message by studying the Word of God. Now I do not care to vex my soul with false doctrine and compromise.

You can say what you like about me but you know nothing of me or my background. And you are wrong about me, but I can assure you I will lose no sleep over it.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

WRONG I came to this message by studying the Word of God. Now I do not care to vex my soul with false doctrine and compromise.

You can say what you like about me but you know nothing of me or my background. And you are wrong about me, but I can assure you I will lose no sleep over it.

You admitted in another thread there is no scripture against beards.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

You can say what you like about me but you know nothing of me or my background. And you are wrong about me, but I can assure you I will lose no sleep over it.

But daily you pretend to see the contents of every poster's heart with whom you disagree. Doesn't feel that great, does it?

[Michael The Disciple]

I listened to the entire message by Bro. Pixler. Pretty vague I thought. I do hope he forsakes the error on no beard and no trim for women. These are so damaging, no more than the preferences of men.

But I really hope the next thing we hear is NOT that he has seen the light on Evangelical doctrine and the trinity. When we hear this we know they are drifting to far from the shore!

Why do Apostolics do this? They cant seem to get free of the legalism without throwing away the MAGNIFICENT teaching of one God in Christ and the real new birth of Acts 2:38.

After all that was and is the heart of the Apostolic movement. Now its time to re examine the false teachings of pre trib rapture and immortal soul.

[CC1]

I will say that after listenting to the entire sermon it can be taken a lot of different ways. One would be to take it he is just moving from ultra con to moderate in the traditional parameters.

Everything I heard just sounded like he was preparing his church to be more welcoming to people who do not come from a church background. I thought his points making distinctions between Pentecostal culture and things that people are comfortable with vs what is biblical were excellent.

In particular I thought it was interesting when he was talking about people being concerned about things "being worldly" when a suit a preacher wears is more "wordly" than the preacher preaching with blue jeans on. He goes on further to explain for those interested.

All in all an excellent sermon and very encouraging for those of us who believe old time Pentecostals have stymied the Great Commission with their slavish commitment to Pentecostal Culture that is based on just that, culture, and not the bible.