Islamic Prayers at the Vatican

[Luke]

Originally Posted by jfrog

That doesn't mean they have a different God.

Do you believe that the God of the Bible and allah are one and the same?

[Aquila]

It's my understanding that Allah was originally a moon god in the pantheon of Arab pagan deities. Mohammed elevated Allah to being the only true god and attributed the stories of Abraham and others in the biblical narrative to him based on his own studies of Judaism and Christianity.

Allah Moon God

Allah Moon GodIs Allah the God of the Bible, or is Allah the moon god of ancient pagan Arabia?

While "Allah" could refer to God literally, the Allah of Islam is the moon god of ancient pagan Arabia.

The Arabic word for "god" is "ilah", while "al" is the Arabic for "the". Therefore, "Allah" combines "al" with "ilah" and removes the "i", to literally means, "the god".

But much like "YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah" is the personal name of the God of the Bible, "Allah" was also the personal name given to the moon god, the highest of the 360 pagan idols worshipped in Mecca, Muhammad's home town (see Muhammad False Prophet.

What evidence is there that Islam's "Allah" is the pagan moon god of ancient Mecca?

Consider what the pagan Arabians did to worship their moon god, Allah; they prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of Allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a stone from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

Kabah HajjTo worship their Allah today:

• Muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

• About two million Muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah (the black cube, which is 40 feet tall, on the right).

• The Muslim "holy" month of Ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

• Perched atop churches across the world is the cross, the symbol of the sacrifice made by our God. Perched atop mosques across the world is the crescent moon (above), the symbol of Allah whom Muhammad chose as the god of Islam.

When confronted with the details above, Muslim typically re-assert that "Allah" still means "al" + "ilah" - i.e., "the" + "god" - and is same as the God of the Bible, not the moon god of pagan Mecca. They even point out that Arabic Christian Bibles uses "Allah" to refer to God.

The "Allah" in the current Arabic Christian Bibles is literally "the God" and does refer to the God of the Bible. Advise Muslims that if this is really the "Allah" they are worshipping, then they should stop bowing down toward a meteorite five times a day and the crescent moon should neither start their "holy" month of Ramadan nor top their mosques. If the Allah they are worshipping is the God of the Bible, then they should worship Him as the Bible instructs.


http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/allah-moon-god.html

[Aquila]

Another link that gets into the origin of Allah,

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Another link that gets into the origin of Allah,

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

Aquila, I mean this in all seriousness, I can find many links to Christianity and paganism as well.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Aquila, I mean this in all seriousness, I can find many links to Christianity and paganism as well.

Yes, but even our pagan connections are different. lol

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Luke

But how can the God of the Bible and allah be the same God inlight of the contradictions that I pointed out not to mention the many others?

Those same contradictions fit the Jews so you tell me how we can be serving the same God of the Jews?

[Abiding Now]

What can you expect, they're catholics.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

Those same contradictions fit the Jews so you tell me how we can be serving the same God of the Jews?

BAM

[Luke]

Originally Posted by shazeep

BAM

Very simple the Jews as a people group disagree with the Bible but the Jewish Holy book which they (and I along with most christians agree) have from God does not disagree with one of the things listed.

Jesus was the Son of God.

Jesus died on the cross.

Isaac was the child of promise to Abraham and Sarah.

The Jews as people are wrong in regards to the first two but the Old testament is not. Therefore the God of their Holy book is not contradicting.


On the other hand the book claimed to be from allah says the exact opposite as the Bible in these specific places among others. Therefore it is the god of islam and his book that is at odds with the God of the Bible not simply the thoughts or feelings of the people.

Do you see the difference?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

Those same contradictions fit the Jews so you tell me how we can be serving the same God of the Jews?

Very simple the Jews as a people group disagree with the Bible but the Jewish Holy book which they (and I along with most christians agree) have from God does not disagree with one of the things listed.

Jesus was the Son of God.

Jesus died on the cross.

Isaac was the child of promise to Abraham and Sarah.

The Jews as people are wrong in regards to the first two but the Old testament is not. Therefore the God of their Holy book is not contradicting.


On the other hand the book claimed to be from allah says the exact opposite as the Bible in these specific places among others. Therefore it is the god of islam and his book that is at odds with the God of the Bible not simply the thoughts or feelings of the people.

Do you see the difference?