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Old 06-02-2007, 04:05 PM
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Are you kidding me??? Come on Coon. God gives the ministry, not anyone else. So no one can say she does not have a ministry, but God.

Have you even listen to Randy preach? Man he is good. He is a Shockamoo guy, but he is really good.
Is that anointing or natural talent? That stuff can be learned. You all ever watch Marjoe?
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:11 PM
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Why does the reporters income matter or who he is reporting on? Are you saying only a multimillion dollar reporter can accurately report on those that have millions of dollars?
No - I am just saying - for someone that lives in a one bedroom apt - they have no concept of someone living in a $3 M apartment overlooking central park. They are overly critical - trying to give us the old - Jesus had no where to sleep and had to sleep on the ground outside with all the animals Catholic mentality. Someone that has no concept of money - cannot report accurately about people with money. I know many of these guys and people GIVE them things - Rolls Royce's, jewelry, houses, land, major money - They are not just taking money from the mail to live the way they are living. People demand that they live High on the Hog!!!!!

It may just be me - but I have been burned by reporters and I just can't stand them. I have never been quoted correctly on any subject I have ever been quoted on. They are liberal liars and I don't trust any of them.

That does not discount any wrong the Whites have done - but thank God the NEWSPAPER reporters were not at the park in Saint Louis when a NATIONAL SS Director was caught hmmmmmmmmmm in a compromising situation! Don't forget - you will be judged by the same judgment you dish out.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:13 PM
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Is that anointing or natural talent? That stuff can be learned. You all ever watch Marjoe?
Anything can be learned. But the truth is that the words he preaches are from the Bible, anointed word. I believe he is anointed. God has given them the opportunity to reach thousands. I think that when people in this movement see others outside the movement growing they never, never give God the praise. They always say it is "natural talent." The fact is that "natural talent" also comes from God. He allows it. If you have the HG you have an anointing, plain, simple.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:22 PM
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If you recall, Eddie Long Prophecied to his People that if they invested in Mark Hanby's Religious TV network (Kingdom Truth) They would become millionaires. The whole thing was a fraud and was connected with Earl Paulk. a lot of people lost money.
Thad - I was there and never heard him actually prophesy about it - but I did hear him HIGHLY recommend and promote it and they RAN - Preachers and all to sign up. I felt horrible at the time and God knows - I thought MH was one of the most brilliant men I had ever heard preach. I could still listen to him for hours. (I wonder what is wrong with me at times!)

Be that as it may - I knew of his past money deals and knew that it was a scheme and tried to tell several people not to invest. The sad thing was - there was MANY MAJOR preachers that ran to sign up and I mean - to the tune of MILLIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO the people followed. They kept telling them - now - this is not a Ministry investment and there are no promises and took up millions like it was going out of style!!!!!!!!!!
I thought it was INSANE then and knew they would never get a dime back!
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:31 PM
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They are overly critical - trying to give us the old - Jesus had no where to sleep and had to sleep on the ground outside with all the animals Catholic mentality.
Are you just trying to attach a negative term to a topic here? This is a logical fallacy. How is believing Jesus had no where to sleep "Catholic"?

How is pointing out Jesus was not wealthy catholic?

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Someone that has no concept of money - cannot report accurately about people with money. I know many of these guys and people GIVE them things - Rolls Royce's, jewelry, houses, land, major money - They are not just taking money from the mail to live the way they are living. People demand that they live High on the Hog!!!!!
Well I think that is an absurd and arrogant viewpoint and I disagree. BTW they can give that stuff away and NOT give in to the demands they live high on the hog

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It may just be me - but I have been burned by reporters and I just can't stand them. I have never been quoted correctly on any subject I have ever been quoted on. They are liberal liars and I don't trust any of them.
Not all reporters are liberal or liars, but many feel the same way about preachers and Pastors. I am sure there are bad ones all around in different places

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That does not discount any wrong the Whites have done - but thank God the NEWSPAPER reporters were not at the park in Saint Louis when a NATIONAL SS Director was caught hmmmmmmmmmm in a compromising situation! Don't forget - you will be judged by the same judgment you dish out.
How would we know they did wrong if not for someone reporting on it? As for the person in the park, how does that relate to me? I have no problem with a reporter reporting on that...and in fact it WAS in the news.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:36 PM
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Anything can be learned. But the truth is that the words he preaches are from the Bible, anointed word. I believe he is anointed. God has given them the opportunity to reach thousands. I think that when people in this movement see others outside the movement growing they never, never give God the praise. They always say it is "natural talent." The fact is that "natural talent" also comes from God. He allows it. If you have the HG you have an anointing, plain, simple.
Anyone can learn to preach a certain style and do it from the bible. Natural talents DO come from God but even Louis Farrakan can preach!

If I saw someone growing IN "this movement" (whatever that is) and not rather reaching more souls...because HIs kingdom growing is what we are supposed to be about and not OUR kingdom growing, I would feel the same way. Simply growing in numbers is NOT true Kingdom Growing....gaining membership is NOT true Spiritual growth. Gaining wealth is NOT true Spiritual growth. converting the lost is growth...

If the POAs grow..that means nothing to me. But if the POA are genuinely reaching sinners and converting them to Christ...that is growth.

BTW I never said Randy did NOT have anointing. I was pointing out just being a "good preacher" does not necessarily mean anything
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:54 PM
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I wondered where you were. I know you guys are close. .....
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No - I am just saying - for someone that lives in a one bedroom apt - they have no concept of someone living in a $3 M apartment overlooking central park. They are overly critical - trying to give us the old - Jesus had no where to sleep and had to sleep on the ground outside with all the animals Catholic mentality. Someone that has no concept of money - cannot report accurately about people with money. I know many of these guys and people GIVE them things - Rolls Royce's, jewelry, houses, land, major money - They are not just taking money from the mail to live the way they are living. People demand that they live High on the Hog!!!!!
It may just be me - but I have been burned by reporters and I just can't stand them. I have never been quoted correctly on any subject I have ever been quoted on. They are liberal liars and I don't trust any of them.

That does not discount any wrong the Whites have done - but thank God the NEWSPAPER reporters were not at the park in Saint Louis when a NATIONAL SS Director was caught hmmmmmmmmmm in a compromising situation! Don't forget - you will be judged by the same judgment you dish out.
IMO this speaks of deeper issues on the part of the giver and the recievers.
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