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03-05-2013, 11:14 PM
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Re: Chavez goes to his "reward"
Cur infernum odor instar sulphuris?
"quoniam non derelinques animam meam in inferno neque dabis Sanctum tuum videre corruptionem"
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03-05-2013, 11:40 PM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
I think this quote from an editorial by the editorial board at the USA Today newspaper site pretty much sums Hugo Chavez up;
"it could well turn out that Chavez's legacy will be a familiar and pedestrian one: that of the popular leader who came to power democratically then behaved more like a dictator, claiming virtually all power for himself and leaving behind little but instability. South America has seen it before."
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03-06-2013, 01:36 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
I'm sure some demented mind out there believes Chavez deserves sainthood....
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03-06-2013, 06:01 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
Nicholas Maduro is the annointed successor and vice president. his wife is attorney general.
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Oh yes, I'm sure they will have a fair "election" just like all the others.
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03-06-2013, 07:07 AM
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Re: Chavez goes to his "reward"
Chavez is not burning in Hell. He is sleeping in Hades. He will one day awake from death to be judged.
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03-06-2013, 08:31 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
God allows men to rule, and when their cup is full, they are taken out!!! Chavez was a divider not a uniter so as with other evil dicators, he is gone.
He now will face judgement, as all men shall, the fire of the refiner will complete what is lacking in him. God is no fool, nor is He a monster. We should all be humbled by the knowledge that we too shall be judged, and salted with fire.
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03-06-2013, 08:32 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Chavez goes to his "reward"
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Chavez is not burning in Hell. He is sleeping in Hades. He will one day awake from death to be judged.
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Where is it now or then, it is the same to Chavez, the moment he died, the next He will be there.
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03-06-2013, 09:07 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
We have a Venezuelan couple in our church. One is a university professor and the other a police officer. They loved Chavez. When they first started coming, I went to dinner with them and made a couple of wise cracks about Hugo. They weren't offended, but they made it clear that his perception here was not the way most Venezuelans viewed him. He was a hero because he came from poverty and championed the cause of the oppressed. He replaced a series of very corrupt leaders and political parties that neglected the poor while ingratiating themselves. The only difference I see in Chavez and those whom he replaced was that he used the wealth of the nation not only to help himself, he used it to help the commoners in his country. This is why he was loved so much and why people were willing, like this couple, to turn a blind eye to the fact that Chavez became a dictator and abused his power against his political opponents.
I personally didn't like him, but I love this couple so much, I just kept my opinion to myself when we would get together and talk about the world and Venezuela. I avoid getting gas at any Citgo and Valero stations because they sell Venezuelan gasoline. Chavez supported Hezbollah and the Iranian regime.
I sent them texts yesterday telling them how sorry I was for them. I know it broke their hearts that he died. They plan to move back whenever the husband retires.
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03-06-2013, 10:05 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
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Are you suggesting that it was in the bosom of The Great Whore of the Book of Revelations where this dead human found saving Grace?
The Great Whore-- the mother of all legalism, the system that wants to deify Mary-- Hugo Chavez was saved through the witness of the Great Whore?
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The mother of all legalism: UPCI
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03-06-2013, 10:06 AM
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Re: Chavez is Dead
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Oh yes, I'm sure they will have a fair "election" just like all the others.
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Like in the US, with all the media hoopla and lies?
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