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Old 11-16-2012, 02:42 PM
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OH PLEASE ! She left, he didn't divorce her ! He tried everything to get her to change her mind !
That's true, but you said I could ask anyone in Canada - I chose her (Intending humor - asking an ex-wife is about like asking a mother-in-law)
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:47 PM
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That's true, but you said I could ask anyone in Canada - I chose her (Intending humor - asking an ex-wife is about like asking a mother-in-law)
Bad on me, true dat, exes are not good for recomendations ),i actually never even thought of her
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:51 PM
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No according to my eyes and ears via the vid, letters were sent to all his board members in mexico without his knowledge ,than letters were sent to all missionaries worldwide telling them he had been terminated ,but not telling them why, which left him open to accusations and rumors he then responded with this vid and they responded with a "clarifying"/damage control letter ,it all should have stayed in house ,then no ones reputation would have been impugned which they said was the reason why they wont tell anyone the details ,In fact they impugned his reputation anyway,He is very highly respected in Canada and at least the northeastern part of the US and this is going to cause major damage when the Canadians here this ,its a dumb move on the UPC's part. My prediction is T Wynn will get lots of support privately and anonomously and the Atlantic dist. could be jepordized. Dumb Dumb Dumb, why ? because they have let worse pass for years ie: Tekle's situation in Pakistan.So Bottom line is what was it ? management style ,old school style vs the young turks ? what ??
What was Tekle up to in Pakistan?
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What was Tekle up to in Pakistan?
he taught and wrote a book on divine flesh teaching ,everyone knew what he beleived all the way back to his spiritual mother and father Kenneth and Bobbi Wendell , (was their first convert)he always thought God talked to him only with revelations and they ignored it until it was too late (after he wrote a book stating it) then a select few ministers forced the issue and they called him on it so he dumped the upc and had people that didn't leave with him, put in jail and tortured over there by using govt cronies.in addition to church property being lost that was financed by churches over here !
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Well, with the Fundamental Doctrine Statement both one-step and three-step ministers would be legal, but, maybe it was causing a problem or confusion in the work in Mexico.

Didn't TFT play the old "one-step vs. three-step" card years ago and get the job of Foreign Missions Czar by proclaiming in feigned righteous indignation, "We have missionaries that don't even preach the plan of salvation"? or something like that.
Don't recall that of TFT. Guess I have also been under the impression that most one-steppers in UPC remained incognito about their official stance, i.e. 1993 affirmation statement.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:45 PM
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he taught and wrote a book on divine flesh teaching ,everyone knew what he beleived all the way back to his spiritual mother and father Kenneth and Bobbi Wendell , (was their first convert)he always thought God talked to him only with revelations and they ignored it until it was too late (after he wrote a book stating it) then a select few ministers forced the issue and they called him on it so he dumped the upc and had people that didn't leave with him, put in jail and tortured over there by using govt cronies.in addition to church property being lost that was financed by churches over here !
But, what about Pakistan?
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If the work in Mexico,is indeed sovereign,how can a missionary be dropped by the GMB ?
If God called the brother to be a missionary what does it matter if one receives recognition or not ?
Isn't this kind of like telling a Pastor to turn in his credentials because he didn't ask permission to preach in a independent church ?
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If the work in Mexico,is indeed sovereign,how can a missionary be dropped by the GMB ?
If God called the brother to be a missionary what does it matter if one receives recognition or not ?
Isn't this kind of like telling a Pastor to turn in his credentials because he didn't ask permission to preach in a independent church ?
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If the brother was not dropped of his credentials why drop him as a missionary ?
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I guess I'm too dumb to understand organizational politics.
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