Light Shows In Churches

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Wasn 't the day of Pentecost a gathering of saints? Then sinners came in their midst and Peter preached to them.

The service should be for both the lost and the saved. In fact perhaps one reason for gathering together is for the saints to minister TO the lost with prayers and extending loving greeting

We'll have to disagree with your interpretation. The day of Pentecost is not a model, per se, for the purpose of a worship service of a NT body of believers. I do not believe your perspective meets the NT model, but I respect your position on the matter.

I also do not believe the Scriptures teach the "at all costs" mission statement you noted earlier, but I respect the heart behind such a statement.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

the world has good singers. Dont imitate the world

Im not moved by just any old light show. Or just any old singers. I am moved when the musicians have forsaken all to follow Christ. In such a case it sets a HEAVENLY ATMOSPHERE which is certainly different than Churches have presented over the years. I remember as a young boy always heading to the back of the Church so I could stretch out and go to sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AClg8...eature=related

Give them a glimpse of the glory and majesty of Jesus.

[Michael The Disciple]

What do people think a move of God is anyway? Is it not a deep love for God and desire to do his will? Anything else that happens is to point us TO THAT.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

We'll have to disagree with your interpretation. The day of Pentecost is not a model, per se, for the purpose of a worship service of a NT body of believers. I do not believe your perspective meets the NT model, but I respect your position on the matter.

I also do not believe the Scriptures teach the "at all costs" mission statement you noted earlier, but I respect the heart behind such a statement.

It was a gathering of believers. They did gather to pray. If you continue the activity from chapter 1, they were "waiting" on the Lord, waiting prayerfully

That is what is meant by "one accord"...they weren't all playing bingo

Act 1:13 And when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James.
Act 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

Jesus said "where two or more are gathered together"...ANY time the church gathers together for some sort of function it's "the church"

As I said, the NT shows that unbelievers regularly came into those meetings.

1Co 14:22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.
1Co 14:23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds?

1Co 14:24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all,
1Co 14:25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.
1Co 14:26 What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.

Jesus went out of his way, even disobeying Jewish customs, to witness to a Samaritan

Peter did the same to witness to Gentiles.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Im not moved by just any old light show. Or just any old singers. I am moved when the musicians have forsaken all to follow Christ. In such a case it sets a HEAVENLY ATMOSPHERE which is certainly different than Churches have presented over the years. I remember as a young boy always heading to the back of the Church so I could stretch out and go to sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AClg8...eature=related

Give them a glimpse of the glory and majesty of Jesus.

Im not moved by light shows or singers. In fact sometimes I just wish everyone would be quite

Music in the church to elicit emotions is pretty new. It used to be about liturgy. It was a way of people learning and remembering bible truths

But now people can't even pray without music playing. I prefer nothing distracting. I don't respond to fast music or any drum beat...not anymore than I would my favorite punk song.

Excitement is not Spirit. Maybe Excitement can lead someone to praise God more but it just distracts me

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by houston

Prax,

You are so annoying.

I got another word for it.
But never mind........

[Michael The Disciple]

Excitement is not Spirit. Maybe Excitement can lead someone to praise God more but it just distracts me

Its not about excitement to me its about an atmosphere that reminds me of Heaven. Being around the throne worshipping the Lord.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its not about excitement to me its about an atmosphere that reminds me of Heaven. Being around the throne worshipping the Lord.

Fast drum beats remind you of heaven? Well I never died and went there so I would not know but from my observation there is a lot of people getting excited in Pentecostal church services

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

I got another word for it.
But never mind........

Awwwww, did I break your sacred Cow?

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't respond to fast music or any drum beat...

If we want to get really really biblical here...there aren't any instances of drums in churches or worship either.

The church of Christ got one over on Pentecostals.

We could use music like some of the mexican music....tubas for the beat instead of drums.
WOOO HOOOO!