The Real Delegate Count - it's not over

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

When I go to the produce department in the grocery store and I am looking at produce to buy, I am looking for the most freshest, firmest produce that I know I am going to consume to nourish my body. Old, stale, soft, and rotted areas will make my body sick instead of giving it strength to get through another day of work. Who wants a bell pepper or a tomato that the skin is wrinkled and when you bite into it, it smells or tastes bad?

Perhaps when the american people are faced with a choice of either buying a rotten tomato or a rotten potato, they try to suck it in and find the "good" in one or the other. After all, it's the only food on the table offered for sale and you just think that you have to buy it because it is all that the owners selling this produce have put out. Pretty soon we are saying, well, we might get more nutrition out of that potato because the tomato is pretty wilted. It's been around for a while...but then so has the potato, but it might last a while longer.

How many of us will actually buy from a choice of 2 automobiles .... both have a history known to be lemons?

Why are the american people being given a choice of two lemons to pick from? I won't buy a lemon auto, or a rotten tomato. So why should I be expected to vote for one of 2 men who I do not agree with their policies and with what directions they say that they want to take our great country in? I don't want someone telling me that the potato is the lesser of two evils. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. Why is it that people always want the one who will not obey God?

We fell for the hope and change mantra 4 years ago. We got hopeless change.

What does Romney offer to us that will bring us out of hopeless change? He doesn't even worship the same Father God, Creator, Savior that I do. At least Saul answered to God when he was king. Even Pharaoh learned who God was during Exodus.


I personally do not think that either one of them will make America the great country she once was. Only God can do that and I do not see that either one of them will humble themselves before our Creator God and seek His help in turning around this country for it's citizens.

Good Post! I think it's a danger to put someone in the highest office who opposes the fundamental tenets of Biblical truth. I'm not going to do that and lay it at my charge.

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Originally Posted by Esther

I agree with how you feel, however as I see it we have one of two choices R or O. Under no circumstance do I want O.

Cato Institute graded Romney with a "C" upon leaving office as governor.

But what is really disturbing is that people don't see his doublespeak.

Now how convoluted is this? This is just an example of what he does.

On abortion - I oppose it, but I'm for it.

Q. Mr. Romney, you personally oppose abortion and as a church leader have advised women not to have an abortion. Given that, how could you in good conscience support a law that enables women to have an abortion, and even lets the Government pay for it? If abortion is morally wrong, aren't you responsible for discouraging it?

ROMNEY One of the great things about our nation, Sally [ Sally Jacobs of The Boston Globe ] , is that we're each entitled to have strong personal beliefs, and we encourage other people to do the same. But as a nation we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want, and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country; I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate.

On gays in the Boy Scouts - I oppose it, but I'm for it

"I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."

It's the same thing he has done on the healhtcare debate - I oppose it and will repeal, but "I love mandates".

Goodness, he makes me dizzy. I'm not supporting this confusion.

[BeenThinkin]

So Obama doesn't double-speak? Nah, that's right, He just out and out lies and when you refuse to vote and he wins....guess what! you voted for him.

I hear all the things said about Romney, (and he wasn't my first pick) but where is your outspokenness about Obama. Seems somewhat hypocritical! Oh well, some wouldn't change their mind if Jesus appeared and told them who to vote for. And yes, I have changed and will change again when it's for the best of my country. And Obama "ain't" what's best for our country.

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

So Obama doesn't double-speak? Nah, that's right, He just out and out lies and when you refuse to vote and he wins....guess what! you voted for him.

I hear all the things said about Romney, (and he wasn't my first pick) but where is your outspokenness about Obama. Seems somewhat hypocritical! Oh well, some wouldn't change their mind if Jesus appeared and told them who to vote for. And yes, I have changed and will change again when it's for the best of my country. And Obama "ain't" what's best for our country.

Whoever said anything about supporting Obama? You can go back on this very forum in regards to Obama's election and find out ALL the information I posted against him. There is no point bringing him up again. It's been done. It's been said. It's been exhausted.

But, please take note that this fear mongering of Obama getting another four years is pure fear mongering.

For instance, look at the ruling in this case. We do have people fighting for our Constitutional rights.

Judge Strikes Down NDAA, Rules Obama Must Obey Constitution

Signed very quietly into law on New Year’s Eve, the controversial Act has been roundly criticized as unconstitutional by groups on both the political left and right. Of greatest concern was Section 1021, which grants the United States military authority to exercise police powers on American soil. Upon order of the president and at his sole discretion, agents of the military are empowered to detain “until the end of hostilities” anyone the president believes to have “substantially supported” al Qaeda, the Taliban, or “associated forces.”

http://www.westernjournalism.com/jud...-constitution/

This is what I want - I want a Constitutional fight with Obama. I want a real conservative to run in 2016. We wont' have that if Romney wins.

And if Paul can bring us a Brokered Convention, I would like to see this happen after the continued vetting of Romney - Does that mean that if Romney were prevented from gaining the 1,144 votes necessary for nomination, then Ron Paul would therefore become the nominee? No. But if he would, it would be so much better than succumbing to the candidate that those national saboteurs who gave us Obama now want.

Actually, the candidate who would likely be seen as the classic compromise acceptable to enough present Romney and Paul leaners on the convention floor would be Newt Gingrich. Gingrich, unlike Romney, has promised to reverse Obama’s Marxofascist, globalist Executive Orders, including all the “Czar” appointments and his Agenda 21 and EPA EO’s.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Whoever said anything about supporting Obama? You can go back on this very forum in regards to Obama's election and find out ALL the information I posted against him. There is no point bringing him up again. It's been done. It's been said. It's been exhausted.

But, please take note that this fear mongering of Obama getting another four years is pure fear mongering.

For instance, look at the ruling in this case. We do have people fighting for our Constitutional rights.



This is what I want - I want a Constitutional fight with Obama. I want a real conservative to run in 2016. We wont' have that if Romney wins.

And if Paul can bring us a Brokered Convention, I would like to see this happen after the continued vetting of Romney - Does that mean that if Romney were prevented from gaining the 1,144 votes necessary for nomination, then Ron Paul would therefore become the nominee? No. But if he would, it would be so much better than succumbing to the candidate that those national saboteurs who gave us Obama now want.

Actually, the candidate who would likely be seen as the classic compromise acceptable to enough present Romney and Paul leaners on the convention floor would be Newt Gingrich. Gingrich, unlike Romney, has promised to reverse Obama’s Marxofascist, globalist Executive Orders, including all the “Czar” appointments and his Agenda 21 and EPA EO’s.

It ain't been said about Romney yet???? Has it been done about Romney? Has it not been said, about Romney? Has it not been exhausted about Romney?

And, yes, if Newt was running I'd voted for him in a heart beat. But he ain't! It's Obama or Romney and anyway you look at it staying away from the polls is not the wise thing to do in any circumstance! Thank you... I'm through!

Been Thinkin

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

It ain't been said about Romney yet???? Has it been done about Romney? Has it not been said, about Romney? Has it not been exhausted about Romney?

And, yes, if Newt was running I'd voted for him in a heart beat. But he ain't! It's Obama or Romney and anyway you look at it staying away from the polls is not the wise thing to do in any circumstance! Thank you... I'm through!

Been Thinkin

I don't really think a Brokered Convention will take place in Tampa, but it would be nice if we could make history.

It's not wise to become part of the problem - voting in a Rhino and continuing our decline for conservatism. Just my opinion, of course.

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't really think a Brokered Convention will take place in Tampa, but it would be nice if we could make history.

It's not wise to become part of the problem - voting in a Rhino and continuing our decline for conservatism. Just my opinion, of course.

There is zero chance of a brokered convention. That brokered convention talk was the pipe dream of those who hoped Santorum and Newton would stay in the race to the bitter end bashing each other and Romney all the way to the convention where you would have had a brokered convention. Whether you will acknowledge it or not Romney has the nomination.

All a brokered convention would have done is insure Obama would win by a large margin as Repubs were just focusing on bashing each other when all were still in the race and not focusing on Obama.

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

It ain't been said about Romney yet???? Has it been done about Romney? Has it not been said, about Romney? Has it not been exhausted about Romney?

And, yes, if Newt was running I'd voted for him in a heart beat. But he ain't! It's Obama or Romney and anyway you look at it staying away from the polls is not the wise thing to do in any circumstance! Thank you... I'm through!

Been Thinkin

Let the church say "AMEN!!!"

The fat lady has sung!

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Originally Posted by CC1

There is zero chance of a brokered convention. That brokered convention talk was the pipe dream of those who hoped Santorum and Newton would stay in the race to the bitter end bashing each other and Romney all the way to the convention where you would have had a brokered convention. Whether you will acknowledge it or not Romney has the nomination.

All a brokered convention would have done is insure Obama would win by a large margin as Repubs were just focusing on bashing each other when all were still in the race and not focusing on Obama.

It's not exactly what the media is telling us. Here's more detailed information, if you are interested.

Actually, Mitt Romney is secretly winning a lot FEWER delegates than you think
5/1/12

It's not just about Romney losing the upcoming contests, its also about him losing the delegates he supposedly already has...

The Mainstream Media and political bigwigs in both parties have declared Mitt Romney the presumptive GOP nominee. This “presumptive” declaration is at best premature when even favorable estimates have Romney hundreds of delegates short of reaching the magic number of 1,144 delegates required to win the Republican nomination.

Romney needs about 300 more delegates from the remaining 14 contests to claim the nomination.

Meanwhile, there is a final charge being mounted by the anti-Romney, pro-Paul alliance to make sure Romney does not reach the 1,144 by contesting the last 14 states or by winning hundreds of delegates in states he's supposedly already won.

http://www.dailypaul.com/229934/actu...than-you-think

See how interesting this can become? More from the article:

"Despite the fact that these delegates are bound to vote for Romney in the first round of the convention there is much talk about the ability to vote “abstain” and not offer any support to any candidate in the hopes of forcing a brokered convention.

Four years ago, John McCain was not well liked by many in the grassroots and 14 delegates with that sentiment showed their displeasure by voting “abstain” (SOURCE: Wikipedia, also see Youtube explanation, courtesy of Matt Larson, on the Abstain Voting Tactic). It may well turn out to be that a large number of anti-Romney delegates will have made it into the convention and will nullify this entire election cycle by forcing a brokered convention using this tactic. For another read on this idea of stealth delegates please read TheGreenPapers.com commentary on the procedural nature of what is involved (SOURCE: STEALTHY IS AS STEALTHY DOES...)."

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PO, the only ones wanting Romney not to be nominated after winning the nomination are a small fringe group like yourself. Nothing is going to come of it. Santorum and Newton are not going to support that. Mr. Tin Foil Hat is the only candidate who is kooky enough to support that strategy and he is a non factor. RP pulls 10-20% support among Repubs just like some left wing fringe nut can attract 10-20% support from the Dem party.

I can just see your post after Romney accepts the nomination at the convention It will be something like "Now not so fast. Don't believe the media. If a meteorite should hit Romney or investigative work uncover multiple wives, he might not be the nominee!!!!"