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05-20-2012, 07:48 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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To me if you've obeyed Acts 2:38, you are a brother/sister. |
im so glad to hear that. i have heard so many people condemned each other for their view of the godhead.
I think we are seeing a little more acceptance from both sides, though i understand neither will come to a full agreement on the subject.
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05-20-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
Epley rants about trinitarians going to hell. He says his buddy Bennicasa believes a damnable heresy about the rapture. That heresy isn't damnable enough for Epley to throw his friend into the fiery pit.
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05-20-2012, 07:57 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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that is another broad brush brother. trinitarians practice acts 2:38. that doctine is not just a oneness thing.
I know of some unitarians who do acts 2:38 as well
so acts 2:38 isnt just the modern day apostolic oneness pentacostal
i remember having this discussion with my former pastor about this, and he was sorta shocked, he thought acts 2:38 was a oneness only thing.
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I have a friend who is/was Church of Christ. It threw my fourth generation OP wife for a loop when he told us out of the blue that ACTS 2:38 is their "candystick" scripture!
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05-20-2012, 08:28 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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Seekerman? Your on an Apostolic forum on a thread called ex apostolics. Why would you waste your time on this forum.. ?? are you on it to bless or curse the Acts 2:38 Church? |
Is the Church based on one verse?
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05-20-2012, 09:58 PM
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The largest charismatic church in Columbus Ohio baptizes people in Jesus name. Kenneth Copeland was a guest at that church a couple months ago.
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Now that's an association to avoid.
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05-20-2012, 10:48 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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Is the Church based on one verse?
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If Acts 2:38 isn't obeyed/experienced then they are not in the Church/bride.
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05-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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If Acts 2:38 isn't obeyed/experienced then they are not in the Church/bride. |
so if what if they obeyed romans 10:9-10 or 13 just for discussions sake,
or if they obeyed acts 16;31
They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved--you and your household."
or acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
just curious
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05-20-2012, 11:36 PM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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If Acts 2:38 isn't obeyed/experienced then they are not in the Church/bride. |
And yet another error.
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05-21-2012, 07:36 AM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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Is the Church based on one verse?
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If Acts 2:38 isn't obeyed/experienced then they are not in the Church/bride. |
Another multi-generational statement revealing "that's what I've always been told, and I believe it."
Some people just can't see the forest for the trees because they're too busy hugging one, not all of them...
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05-21-2012, 07:46 AM
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Re: Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?
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If Acts 2:38 isn't obeyed/experienced then they are not in the Church/bride. |
True. However, some see this legalistically. Others see this contextually.
For example, a few Catholic saints who were martyred repented of their sins, lived pure lives, were water baptized, and experienced what is historically known as "spiritual ecstasy" wherein they wept and cried unintelligibly, had visions, had dreams, and experienced many miracles. These experienced Acts 2:38 (repentance, water baptism, Holy Ghost infilling).
Was their understanding limited? Yes.
Was the church in error concerning the wording of baptism? Yes.
Were they pressing in to receive salvation based on all that they did know and understand? Yes.
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