Christian Mysticism & Divine Feminine

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

No, truth does not change. How God dealt with sin changed. That is one covenant to another. See? The covenants were foretold to change. It does not mean truth changes, though. Truth is different from ways of dealing with sin. Sin is still sin as much as it ever was. But how to deal with it changes. So truth never changes. Jesus never changes. He does not contradict what he once said. Truth is never contradicted. Difference in dealing with sins is not contradiction of truth.

The truth is (or once was), adulterers are to be killed. That's the proper and true way of dealing with sin according to the commandment. To teach that adulterers are to be allowed to live was, at one time, to teach error, teaching a lie. Yes, we do see exceptions to that such as with David and Bathsheba, but for the average run-of-the-mill everyday adulterer, the commandment was not to commit adultery and if you did, the true commandment included death for the adulterers.

Granted, the new truth is a better and more compassionate truth, but it's a modified truth, a different truth than once was taught. I for one am glad of the modification.

[Aquila]

Most don't realize that many "Christian Mystics" throughout church history experienced what they called "spiritual ecstasy" wherein they spoke un-intelligibly, had visions, etc.

Sound familiar?

lol

I visited a Luthern church in downtown Dayton Ohio that has a mystic labyrinth on the floor in their basement. The setting was silent and like monks we quietly walked the labyrinth. It was soothing. I found it relaxing and calming. I felt great. But that was because of the meditative focus, not the Holy Ghost.

I've tried to find a picture of the labyrinth they had on the floor... it was something like this...

http://www.oneselfcares.com/labyrint..._labyrinth.jpg

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Amanah

myticism is really about being in the present moment.
being here now.
not letting the past rob you of the present.
not letting the cares of this life rob you of your joy.

There are no principles that you can learn from Hinduism, Buddhism, ect, that you can't learn from the Bible.

Amanah

because of the word mysticism many will most likely think opposing thoughts about what you are saying. Even me, LOL but what you are saying about meditation is oh so true. Just look up the word Meditate in the bible. I wrote a article a week ago about mans search for God. or more like God reaching out to man to restore relationship between him. And having only scratched the surface on some of the eastern religions. Buddism, hinduism, the basic teachings are relationship with your fellow man, which follow bible teachings. It was after men became involved that the teacher began to be worshiped as a god and meditation began to let in evil spirits rather than Gods. Much like much of Christianity.

The bottom line from my opinion, when the massed allow others to form doctines and traditions those traditions come between them and personal relationship with God. The select few don't want the masses to think for themselves, as that would take away the position of authority they have come to expect as thier God given right.

But as you will find just from checking the passages of Scripture that each and every one of us are to learn to meditate on the word of God.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The truth is (or once was), adulterers are to be killed. That's the proper and true way of dealing with sin according to the commandment. To teach that adulterers are to be allowed to live was, at one time, to teach error, teaching a lie. Yes, we do see exceptions to that such as with David and Bathsheba, but for the average run-of-the-mill everyday adulterer, the commandment was not to commit adultery and if you did, the true commandment included death for the adulterers.

Granted, the new truth is a better and more compassionate truth, but it's a modified truth, a different truth than once was taught. I for one am glad of the modification.

That is, again, not an issue of truth. Truth is not modified and truth never changes. Jesus is the way, truth and life. And Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That is, again, not an issue of truth. Truth is not modified and truth never changes. Jesus is the way, truth and life. And Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.

I disagree. It's an issue of changing truth from the OT to the NT and changing for the better in some cases. Once, it was true that eating shellfish was a sin, not true anymore. It's now ok to go to Red Lobster and eat the shrimp feast. Once, it was true that wearing garments of linen and wool was taught against by God. Not anymore. Weave garments of just about whatever you wish. Once it was true that you didn't pick up sticks on the Sabbath, not true anymore. Pick up as many sticks as you wish.

There are lots of such truth changes between the OT and the NT. Truth is still changing.

[mfblume]

I am reminded of how the Jehovah's Witnesses organization started when America was recently stirred by great a revival with Jonathan Edwards, after dissidents from the mainstream, dead denominations left Europe and came to the USA. It was Amercia's GREAT AWAKENING, they called it. People were excited again for God and the enemy came in and took advantage of it, and the JW cult began as well as Mormonism, among others.

The enemy always takes advantage of people's desire to know God and throws in the offkey and the awry, which is usually full of sensational attraction that appeals to the flesh.

Same with today. Nothing is new under the sun.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I disagree. It's an issue of changing truth from the OT to the NT and changing for the better in some cases. Once, it was true that eating shellfish was a sin, not true anymore. It's now ok to go to Red Lobster and eat the shrimp feast. Once, it was true that wearing garments of linen and wool was taught against by God. Not anymore. Weave garments of just about whatever you wish. Once it was true that you didn't pick up sticks on the Sabbath, not true anymore. Pick up as many sticks as you wish.

There are lots of such truth changes between the OT and the NT. Truth is still changing.

Sorry, truth never changes.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sorry, truth never changes.

The commandment on picking up sticks on the Sabbath is still a truth?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am reminded of how the Jehovah's Witnesses organization started when America was recently stirred by great a revival with Jonathan Edwards, after dissidents from the mainstream, dead denominations left Europe and came to the USA. It was Amercia's GREAT AWAKENING, they called it. People were excited again for God and the enemy came in and took advantage of it, and the JW cult began as well as Mormonism, among others.

The enemy always takes advantage of people's desire to know God and throws in the offkey and the awry, which is usually full of sensational attraction that appeals to the flesh.

Same with today. Nothing is new under the sun.

Why would you not include the oneness Pentecostal sect in the list of new Christian sects with new and unusual theological teachings? Granted, they were several decades behind the JWs and Mormons but they were still a new Christian sect which suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Why would you not include the oneness Pentecostal sect in the list of new Christian sects with new and unusual theological teachings? Granted, they were several decades behind the JWs and Mormons but they were still a new Christian sect which suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

It's not about a new sect nor how it appeared, it's about a false doctrine rising up that did not rely upon the Bible alone for sole authority of doctrine.