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Old 05-11-2007, 12:56 PM
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While I have not been a member of WOP since the late 80's, it was always KP vision and desire to have Trinitarians at his church with the belief that he could as well as the church could influence them. It remains to be seen if that has worked.

He hasn't changed his fundamental doctrine, the verdict is still out if he has made much of a impact on the
Phil Driscoll's
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and a host of other celebrity types that WOP has hosted over the years.
and I thought it was a new NWO thing????
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:57 PM
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Daniel, you can justify this all day long. it doesnt change anything. there is a vast difference between having a business/leadership conference (even if they use bible principles) and the stamp of approval that a spiritual conference confers.


for some of us doctrine matters.
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Daniel.. There is a vast difference between what is being promoted.....

Many Christians use the Principles of scripture in business and commerce...
Many who aren't christians use Christian Principles laid forth in the Word in Business and Commerce...
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Daniel, you can justify this all day long. it doesnt change anything. there is a vast difference between having a business/leadership conference (even if they use bible principles) and the stamp of approval that a spiritual conference confers.


for some of us doctrine matters.
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Daniel... you know there is no comparison... btw I see No Prophets listed on the POA Doc.... do you???

Unless it's T Bradshaw and his NFL Insights....
Last I knew, T Bradshaw did not have reams on the web attacking beliefs of the church either.

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Last I knew, T Bradshaw did not have reams on the web attacking beliefs of the church either.

Are you saying that someone on the POA list has reams attacking the church?
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and I thought it was a new NWO thing????
Nope, he was doing it years ago. He has always reached out to those that he considered might be open, actually have something to give.

I remembered as a kid he rented the a movie theater and took the entire church to watch the Late Great Planet Earth, well to a 8 year old Kid that was the stuff of night mares, I hid in the bathroom the whole time.
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Are you saying that someone on the POA list has reams attacking the church?
No, but seems the NWO is intent on this.
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Is this the direction POA is taking????
Are you serious?

Okay, let's look at the MA leadership conference speakers, who they are and what they represent, okay?

John Maxwell
John C. Maxwell is an internationally recognized leadership expert, speaker, and author who has sold over 12 million books. His organizations have trained more than one million leaders worldwide. Dr. Maxwell is the founder of Injoy Stewardship Services and EQUIP.

Terry Bradshaw
Super Bowl QB with the Pittsburgh Steelers

Herman Boone
Head football coach who was the inspiration for the movie “Remember the Titans.”

Tim Sanders
Tim Sanders, the Chief Solutions Officer of Yahoo!, consults with Fortune 500 executives and is the Author of the wildly popular business book, Love is the Killer App.

Malcolm Gladwell
Malcolm Gladwell has been a staff writer with The New Yorker magazine since 1996. His 1999 profile of Ron Popeil won a National Magazine Award, and in 2005 he was named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People. He is the author of two books, "The Tipping Point: How Little Things Make a Big Difference," (2000) and "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking" (2005), both of which were number one New York Times bestsellers.

Jackie Freidberg
Jackie has spent her career knowing the core values and unconventional business strategies of gutsy leaders in successful companies. She will challenge you to stop making excuses and provoke you to get GUTSY and translate winning practices into concrete actions for success!

Mark Sanborn
Mark Sanborn is the Wall Street Journal & Business Week best selling author of, The Fred Factor . Mark is a renowned expert on leadership, team building and mastering change, and is known internationally as "the high content speaker who motivates."

Bill Strickland
Through the power of his vision, the consistency of his purpose, and an undying belief in the goodness of human beings, Bill Strickland, President and CEO of Manchester Bidwell Corporation, restores our faith in ethical, accountable, and visionary leadership. His organizations have created a model for arts, education, training, and, most importantly, hope—and have reshaped the business of social change in America.

Ken Blanchard
Chief Spiritual Officer of The Ken Blanchard Companies®, an international management training and consulting firm that he and his wife, Dr. Marjorie Blanchard, founded in 1979 in San Diego, California.
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