James Kilgore's Part in the 92 Affirmation Debacle - Page 7

onefaith2 · #61 04-05-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

As I recall, a television station had proposed to bring in their t.v. cameras and televise the G.C. night services free of charge. That proposal was rejected by some, others wanted to allow it since it was free. I don't rightly recall which side of the fence that E. E. McNatt, a prominent Memphis Pastor was on, since as a kid, it didn't matter to me one way or the other. I only remember the stink that Pastor McNatt made over the issue.

I recall later discussing this big issue with Dottie Rambo during one of her concerts later that same year. She was appalled that the UPC let, what she thought was a great opportunity, be lost...especially since every night of the conference would have been televised for free.

That's really all I can recall. At the time the issue was not important to me but the ugly spirit between certain ones deeply impressed me in a negative way. Now that I settled into a conservative conviction against the world and all forms of worldliness, I am happy that the UPC took a stand against t.v. even then.

It was during that same business session that I recall Brother Stanley Chambers, (I believe it was) told of buying a television back in the late 1940s or early 50s. He said that one day while watching that thing he felt conviction against it grip his heart. Behind his house there was a downward sloping hill. He took the television to the brow of the slope and tossed it down the hill and watched it roll away out of his life once and for all. That particularly impressed me and I have never forgotten it. GOD BLESS THE MEMORY OF ELDER CHAMBERS AND HIS GODLY CONVICTIONS.

God Bless this man also. ANyone that listens to God. However we must all understand that not everyone receives this same conviction and governs it in different ways. While we need to applaud those who stand for abstinence to anything that can remotely cause sin, we also must encourage those who don't see it that way to regulate it by the help of the Holy Ghost.

POWERUP · #62 04-05-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

Are you talking about Mark Copeland? I think thats his name and I've preached there years ago.

Thats him........... Has a great church..... A lot of my dads family goes there.

They just got into thier new church. Dad said it was a whopping 6 Mill....

go online and check it out.......

onefaith2 · #63 04-05-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP

Thats him........... Has a great church..... A lot of my dads family goes there.

They just got into thier new church. Dad said it was a whopping 6 Mill....

go online and check it out.......

6 million? sheesh thats more than FPC in jackson. Yes that was an awesome church when I was there.

POWERUP · #64 04-05-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

6 million? sheesh thats more than FPC in jackson. Yes that was an awesome church when I was there.

Trust me.......... You can't imangine........ You would have to see it to
believe it!!!

I don't think Woodlawn or FPC in Jackson can touch it.........

onefaith2 · #65 04-05-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP

Trust me.......... You can't imangine........ You would have to see it to
believe it!!!

I don't think Woodlawn or FPC in Jackson can touch it.........

how many people go there?

Outside of preaching there, I went to one of their trophies of Hell depictations.

POWERUP · #66 04-05-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

how many people go there?

Outside of preaching there, I went to one of their trophies of Hell depictations.

My Dad said they have around 400 last time he was there....... New church
seats between 1100 -1200........

They have a awesome music Ministry!!!!! Second to None......

Last time i was there was for my uncles funeral........ lot of my family just
stared at me........

You know............ Like we feel so sorry for him....... you gotta love it..lol

canam · #67 04-05-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

As I recall, a television station had proposed to bring in their t.v. cameras and televise the G.C. night services free of charge. That proposal was rejected by some, others wanted to allow it since it was free. I don't rightly recall which side of the fence that E. E. McNatt, a prominent Memphis Pastor was on, since as a kid, it didn't matter to me one way or the other. I only remember the stink that Pastor McNatt made over the issue.

I recall later discussing this big issue with Dottie Rambo during one of her concerts later that same year. She was appalled that the UPC let, what she thought was a great opportunity, be lost...especially since every night of the conference would have been televised for free.

That's really all I can recall. At the time the issue was not important to me but the ugly spirit between certain ones deeply impressed me in a negative way. Now that I settled into a conservative conviction against the world and all forms of worldliness, I am happy that the UPC took a stand against t.v. even then.

It was during that same business session that I recall Brother Stanley Chambers, (I believe it was) told of buying a television back in the late 1940s or early 50s. He said that one day while watching that thing he felt conviction against it grip his heart. Behind his house there was a downward sloping hill. He took the television to the brow of the slope and tossed it down the hill and watched it roll away out of his life once and for all. That particularly impressed me and I have never forgotten it. GOD BLESS THE MEMORY OF ELDER CHAMBERS AND HIS GODLY CONVICTIONS.

Speaking of Bro Chambers get a copy of his sermon that he preached in Atlantic City(1968) after he was voted in as GS "Will the UPC repeat history" and the answer is yes ,it already did.

ReformedDave · #68 04-05-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by canam

Speaking of Bro Chambers get a copy of his sermon that he preached in Atlantic City(1968) after he was voted in as GS "Will the UPC repeat history" and the answer is yes ,it already did.

Prophetic.....in an unintended way.

onefaith2 · #69 04-05-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP

My Dad said they have around 400 last time he was there....... New church
seats between 1100 -1200........

They have a awesome music Ministry!!!!! Second to None......

Last time i was there was for my uncles funeral........ lot of my family just
stared at me........

You know............ Like we feel so sorry for him....... you gotta love it..lol

They are being true to their beliefs. Its not their fault. Have you just dropped the standard or acts 2:38 as a whole? Just to understand their frame of reference

aegsm76 · #70 04-05-2011, 12:59 PM

Here's a thought.
Would it have been better for the UPC to have taken a hard line in enforcing the AS after it was passed?
You would then have probably had two organizations, one nationally focused and conservative and one locally focused and moderate.
They both would have probably been stronger and larger than the UPC is today.
Thoughts?