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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
Just read a few of the opening posts. I say no big deal about a Branham connection. How about joining David Bernard in prayer for this pastor DA?
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12-03-2010, 05:10 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Just read a few of the opening posts. I say no big deal about a Branham connection. How about joining David Bernard in prayer for this pastor DA?
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I am hoping and praying that this pastor is released
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Post 1 ... among others Hoovie ... in case you missed it.
Why don't you join us, Hoovie ???
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12-03-2010, 05:42 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
Probably an improper question but...
if this man is a cult leader, or closely associated with a known cult, I can't classify him a Christian.
So why should I pray for him?
Should we pray for persecuted Mormons? Persecuted JW's? Persecuted Hindus?
Maybe I would pray for this guy because he is human and facing injustice-- not because he is a Christian as it appears that he isn't a Christian.
I am unsure if Paul would even pray for him, if this guy is a false prophet.
Why should I?
This reads so calloused, I know.
Oh well.
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12-03-2010, 07:16 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Post 1 ... among others Hoovie ... in case you missed it.
Why don't you join us, Hoovie ???
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LOL! Point made.
Let me rephrase, "Why would the focus of this news story be anything other than prayer for this pastor?"
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-03-2010, 07:18 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Probably an improper question but...
if this man is a cult leader, or closely associated with a known cult, I can't classify him a Christian.
So why should I pray for him?
Should we pray for persecuted Mormons? Persecuted JW's? Persecuted Hindus?
Maybe I would pray for this guy because he is human and facing injustice-- not because he is a Christian as it appears that he isn't a Christian.
I am unsure if Paul would even pray for him, if this guy is a false prophet.
Why should I?
This reads so calloused, I know.
Oh well.
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Forget about the labels... the pastor preaches Jesus - even baptises in Jesus Name. Pray for the man.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-03-2010, 08:15 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
Is this guy your brother in Christ?
Is this guy spreading the truth of God's Word?
If he was in America and his church was down the street, would you be a member there?
The more I think about this, I think that DKB could be leading the UPCI to a place where we are "looking their way".
If he is our brother, then who else is our brother?
Does anyone really knows if he has spoken in tongues yet?
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12-03-2010, 08:24 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Is this guy your brother in Christ?
Is this guy spreading the truth of God's Word?
If he was in America and his church was down the street, would you be a member there?
The more I think about this, I think that DKB could be leading the UPCI to a place where we are "looking their way".
If he is our brother, then who else is our brother?
Does anyone really knows if he has spoken in tongues yet?
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Tongues do not deteine brotherhood, Jermyn. Would I go to his church if it were down the street? Probably not, but neither am I a member at the church closest to me. They are MO Synod Lutheran, and fine Chistian people...
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-03-2010, 08:33 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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But that God has open a door ... and rejoiced that this has led to more "Jesus name baptisms". Revival has swept the nation ... according to Bernard ... hundreds baptized in Jesus name .... and *cough, cough* listening to recordings and posting the Picture with The Sign in their meetings?
Don't Branhamites reject glossalia as necessary initial evidence?
Thanks Reckart for the answer: "I disagree with you that they must speak in tongues. ...I would be judge if I said they did not have the Holy Ghost, if they did not speak with tongues." (William Branham, Questions and Answers, 1969, Aug 30th, Jeffersonville, Ind).
Surely ... Bernard is not recognizing this movement as remotely "Apostolic" ....?????
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Branham follows baptize in Jesus name and believe a Oneness view of the Godhead and speaking in tongues. They don't all believe one has to speak in tongues as evidence
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-03-2010, 08:36 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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And they call us elitist 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-03-2010, 08:38 PM
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?
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As it stands I view them as a cult in every sense of the word.
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Why "in every sense of the word"?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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