The Hubris behind "The Full Truth"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

No, of course his schtick isn't poorly written blogs. The verbose nature of the blog, the long end-arounds, etc are sort of the personality of the blog. Reading this blog on-and-off over time would show that. The criteria you pointed to as "6th grader" level writing is likely being perceived in the wrong way. But such as it is, you are not representative likely of the blogs audience, it's not your thing, so you are free to your opinion. If this were a paper on his summer vacation or his favorite hobby, my only critique would be both the verbosity and the lack of brevity. However, understanding the blog and blogger, and enjoying his set-up, I find it to be a wonderfully written blog. He sets up some of the same arguments we have discussed on here, but with a broader context. For example, arguing that Apostolic Identity and claims of full truth are more tied to Ego than they are to anything else is something one can't just claim. He argued it. It's a classic persuasive argument.

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[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes I know you were ribbing US, btw I said "crybabies" not "a cry baby".



I just gave you the order of the discussion.

BTW this post is really REALLY not well written. What you should have said is "I couldn't care less". You might be careless and perhaps you really could care LESS, but I doubt that was what you meant. You sure you didn't author that blog?

BTW if I read several quotes from any book and they were all poorly written...yes Jeffy I would critique the authors on their poorly written words.

Anyways, this was fun.

Prax, Don't you understand that literature is an art? We get on to people who do this very thing with scripture. Applying their literary standards in the same way to all types of literature, and arriving at conclusions that are not the authors.

I'm surprised you'd give book review or critique without reading the book. Appreciate the diversity of the pen. To do that, you may need to hold your breath and give the author the benefit of the doubt to see where he takes you.

[Jeffrey]

But seriously, let's talk about the topic: "We have the full truth." And were LS's statements egotistical?

What about the author's reality that we are stuck in this battle of defending our ego and pride, and truth is nowhere in the ring. Or how about how the author realizes what the crucifixion and "taking up his cross" means in the story?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I find it hard college educated would continue to read it. It was like reading a rough draft that had not been proof read yet for mistakes. I suspect the guy just sat down and wrote it like many of us do for a post. I still think it could stand a more professional look like it had gone through a proof read and spell check etc etc.

And still,though there are many readers, even they might appreciate shortening them a bit. Reading stuff on a monitor is hard on the eyes and people are short on time.

Generally long posts on forums like this, I won't read. I might skim it or read the first few lines

20-somethings don't read blogs looking for material that can be turned over to Simon & Schuster. The blog is a canvas, the words colors and the outcome art. This is post-modernism at its best. Many 20-somethings listen to a book more than they read it. And yes, the majority audience are college students.

People go to that blog specifically to read a single post. That's difference between there and a forum. I realize it's very lengthy. There's no doubting that.

[Cindy]

Great thread........

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Prax, Don't you understand that literature is an art? We get on to people who do this very thing with scripture. Applying their literary standards in the same way to all types of literature, and arriving at conclusions that are not the authors.

I'm surprised you'd give book review or critique without reading the book. Appreciate the diversity of the pen. To do that, you may need to hold your breath and give the author the benefit of the doubt to see where he takes you.

Poor grammar and spelling is not an art form.

I didn't say Id give a review or a critique of a book without reading it. I stated the same thing Id say of this article. By reading a few quotes I can tell it is poorly written.''


By poorly written I mean spelling errors and bad grammar. No serious book is going to get passed the editors with such glaring spelling and grammatical errors. And I was correct, the entire article is the same.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

20-somethings don't read blogs looking for material that can be turned over to Simon & Schuster. The blog is a canvas, the words colors and the outcome art. This is post-modernism at its best. Many 20-somethings listen to a book more than they read it. And yes, the majority audience are college students.

People go to that blog specifically to read that single post. That's difference between there and a forum. I realize it's very lengthy. There's no doubting that.

There were some sentences where the grammar was so bad and the spelling, it was near illegible or incoherent. I don't know about 20 somethings, if maybe they have some new special ability to understand that kind of writing, but the length was not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that it was a grammatical mine field. Spelling errors and terrible grammar that I would think would make it hard to read even for 20 somethings

Don't they still teach grammar in schools? How about just good communication skills in college?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Poor grammar and spelling is not an art form.

I didn't say Id give a review or a critique of a book without reading it. I stated the same thing Id say of this article. By reading a few quotes I can tell it is poorly written.''


By poorly written I mean spelling errors and bad grammar. No serious book is going to get passed the editors with such glaring spelling and grammatical errors. And I was correct, the entire article is the same.

Again, Mr. Prax, blog talk is more casual, informal and the audience more forgivable of key strokes. You are hard pressed to say the author's grammar and spelling are not up to par, even if you find a few mistakes -- that's hardly accurate of the overall writing piece.

And to clarify, no one said "poor grammar is art form." I believe it was said "writing is art form." Also, you ruined your own objectivity (though I'm glad you read it in entirety). After arguing your case red-faced, do you think your own hubris (pun) would allow you to come away with a different verdict at the end? Not that you are being dishonest with your appraisal, but your perspective of how you were reading the post was likely to prove your own point

I would ask you to point out the "glaring" spelling and grammar errors, but I really don't care. A vulture can fly over the lushness of the Rockies and skip over the ponds, creeks, trees and mountain landscapes, and come away with a picture of carnage, death and prey. Ha... so that's a little dramatic, but you get what I mean.

Please don't pull up all my previous posts and comb through them for spelling and grammar mistakes. I'd hate to be called a 6th grader.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

There were some sentences where the grammar was so bad and the spelling, it was near illegible or incoherent. I don't know about 20 somethings, if maybe they have some new special ability to understand that kind of writing, but the length was not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that it was a grammatical mine field. Spelling errors and terrible grammar that I would think would make it hard to read even for 20 somethings

Don't they still teach grammar in schools? How about just good communication skills in college?

Wow.

For example maybe?

Were you reading this like a teacher's assistant does correcting a paper or really trying to read it? lol Honestly, Prax. Tell the truth.

Grammatical field mine... lol

[Jeffrey]

And FTR, the contributors to the site are diverse:

Contributors

* Chady Hosin
* Lloyd Loyalist
* Joel Riley
* chantell
* Ryan
* John Wallace
* Kyle Brown

... and all college educated. One of them is in Law School, the other has a Master's, the other is in a Master's program, another is a History major from Eastern Illinois, etc....