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Old 07-15-2010, 02:52 PM
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PArt of the problem is you are trying to make one mind do two things and that is not the case. You have to aspects residing in one man named JESUS CHRIST! We have humanity and deity synergistically interacting and the humanity understanding the perfection of God and submitting to him. Is Jesus Christ God? Yes but that being called Jesus Christ has two residing aspects to it's makeup. Man and God = one being named Jesus!
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:54 PM
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Checking IPs....Oh NOW I see why you started off with me like that "Max"
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:55 PM
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Checking IPs....Oh NOW I see why you started off with me like that "Max"
do tell do tell...muahahahahaaa
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:57 PM
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do tell do tell...muahahahahaaa
Let's just say it's the same person that in the past during a conversation would start off with the same stuff accusing me of an attitude and other stuff, when I never said anything about him. Im just clarified what was said. He takes it personally as an insinuation that he is illiterate or something, but I get tired of it
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:01 PM
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what's funny is I only thought to check IPs AFTER that post, because it reminded me of the other person
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Im just trying to have a conversation. I didn't present an attitude. I didn't say you were an idiot, yet that is how you responded to me that I had an attitude. Can we just discuss things, not make personal comments?

If so, I will continue
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I think what has been posted so far is enough to explain if you read it.
That's what you said. My response was "I love the attitude" because that's how you reply sounded to me. Capeche?
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:09 PM
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Checking IPs....Oh NOW I see why you started off with me like that "Max"
Totally unacceptable. Reporting this.

Started off???? I started off?
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Let's just say it's the same person that in the past during a conversation would start off with the same stuff accusing me of an attitude and other stuff, when I never said anything about him. Im just clarified what was said. He takes it personally as an insinuation that he is illiterate or something, but I get tired of it

aahh gotcha somethings just don't die.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:17 PM
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That's what you said. My response was "I love the attitude" because that's how you reply sounded to me. Capeche?
That's not an attitude nor was that a personal comment to you or about you. I don't even know if you read what I posted. You weren't replying TO it. So I also went back and quoted it for you, I didn't say anything about you in doing so. You are reading more into what I post that is there. Im tired of YOU doing that. YOU did it before and we got into it and you complained about me not allowing you to make personal comments about me, negative ones. It's the same old story
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:18 PM
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Yes, he is the divine expression by his creation and by his congitive relation to the Father. To know God is to know the Christ. It doesn't get any closer. To speak to Jesus it to literally have existance of God before you and perfected in time in you! How because the Man Jesus Christ submits by love to the perfect will of the Father. The Father is intrinsically apart of his thinking and rationale to choose. The Father expresses perfect love in this and the Son chooses his will.



Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.





Yes... Is God's Word not himself manifested and realized to whom it is expressed?



See above scripture. The son is limited like any man. Yet he is not limited because him and the Father are One togethor and in perfect union of being.
He sees the pure justice of God and the perfect will and the fear of the flesh is quenched by the revelation and perfect will revealed to the Son from the indwelling Father of whom is part of his rationale as they are one.




He is fully divine as the Father is the very part of his being. He is the Mind of God expressed and God's perfection draws the humanity of the Son to perfection by it. Jesus said to my God and your God yet he is the very I AM.
It is the temple of GOD and of the Lamb. We will know the Father by the perfect realization of a submissive Son who will is encaptivated by the perfection of God's love and justice.
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Yes, he is the divine expression by his creation and by his congitive relation to the Father. To know God is to know the Christ. It doesn't get any closer. To speak to Jesus it to literally have existance of God before you and perfected in time in you! How because the Man Jesus Christ submits by love to the perfect will of the Father. The Father is intrinsically apart of his thinking and rationale to choose. The Father expresses perfect love in this and the Son chooses his will.
But is he himself, fully divine? Is Jesus fully divine? I understand the closeness, the unity, the union, etc, but is he Divine himself?

Is the Son a separate individual apart from God like you and I? And if he is apart like you and I, how can he also be divine?
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