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Old 04-26-2007, 01:54 PM
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I know it.
Thank God we are both going to heaven...or wait am I lumped in with the people to whom you are "civil-cordial-friendly?"

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Old 04-26-2007, 01:59 PM
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Thank God we are both going to heaven...or wait am I lumped in with the people to whom you are "civil-cordial-friendly?"

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Some people actually respect honesty.
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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As do I. I am waiting on you to be honest
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:02 PM
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I am not referring tp overlooking "overt sin." I am talking about killing people over making mistakes when they know they need to get up and repent. Fluff is defending pentecostals judgemental attitude. If people in the church knew what kind of junk the pastors are up to, at times, and we treated you all the same we are treated, then you would feel differently. I know there are alot of pastors that do not practice what they preach. It is do as I say not as I do.
I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "what kind of junk pastors are up to". That said, I guess my question to you would be, how do you arrive at your conclusions without also judging someone or something? Your criticism of judgmental attitudes is invalid unless you do not judge others yourself!
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:12 PM
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I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "what kind of junk pastors are up to". That said, I guess my question to you would be, how do you arrive at your conclusions without also judging someone or something? Your criticism of judgmental attitudes is invalid unless you do not judge others yourself!
Matthew 7:1-2
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“Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. 2 For you will be treated as you treat others.[a] The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged

that is cool with me. But you must remember this if you have seen the things happen by "men of God" like I have then you, ahhhhh, would see things my way a little
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:15 PM
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:27 PM
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I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "what kind of junk pastors are up to". That said, I guess my question to you would be, how do you arrive at your conclusions without also judging someone or something? Your criticism of judgmental attitudes is invalid unless you do not judge others yourself!

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Old 04-26-2007, 02:28 PM
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As do I. I am waiting on you to be honest
Honest about what? if there is any one person who there is no doubt what they believe, it would be Steve Epley.

He has stated straight up that he believes those not baptized in Jesus name will be lost. He states as such in plain Country English.

What other honesty do you ask of him?

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Old 04-26-2007, 02:42 PM
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I think JT was just messing with Elder Epley. Don't think it was meant to be taken literally. He just hasn't mastered the whole smiley thing.

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Old 04-26-2007, 02:44 PM
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I think JT was just messing with Elder Epley. Don't think it was meant to be taken literally. He just hasn't mastered the whole smiley thing.

You are right. No one take offense to it.

Everyone check out this article

http://www.ninetyandnine.com/Archive...0423/cover.htm
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