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Old 03-09-2010, 10:39 AM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H

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I have read it three times and each time I was blown away. It is a tough read but worth it............enjoy the ride.
Thanks, but I'm rethinking and that book may be the God of Two Testaments instead. Will have to check my library and see if I have that other book.
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:24 PM
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I know she calls herself the mother church, and I am seeing more evidence of that.
Doesn't the UPC refer to itself as the mother church?
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:27 PM
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It is sad ...... indeed. Have you ever read Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop ?
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:31 PM
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Doesn't the UPC refer to itself as the mother church?
Does the UPC consider herself that ?
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One Sunday night in his sermon our pastor said, "The Bible teaches that a man is supposed to be clean shaven." I spoke up and said, "I'd like to see where that's in the Bible." My wife grabbed my arm and gave me "that look." Husbands and children know what "that look" is. Either the pastor did not hear me or he chose to ignore me. When we walked out of that church after service we did not come back although we had been going there about 15 years.


One time, my former UPC pastor said that one reason why men should not have facial hair is because of the story of Joseph. He said that when Joseph went in to see the Pharaoh, he had to shave his beard....So when we enter the presence of our King, we need to shave our beards, too.

I guess he didn't know that the High Priest of Israel had a beard? (Ps. 133:2)
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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Re: Enseyian Logic: God Made Mistake with Facial H

Heres whats stunning to me. On this Apostolic Forum with thousands of people no one seems to agree that beards are sin. And YET the doctrine goes on. If not in the form of calling it sin in the guise of "platform standards". When will it end?
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:37 PM
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Heres whats stunning to me. On this Apostolic Forum with thousands of people no one seems to agree that beards are sin. And YET the doctrine goes on. If not in the form of calling it sin in the guise of "platform standards". When will it end?
Because it starts with someone having the guts to walk into church wearing a beard. Or someone willing to 'buck the system'. So, since no one wants to be the first to buck the system, it just goes on and on.
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Because it starts with someone having the guts to walk into church wearing a beard. Or someone willing to 'buck the system'. So, since no one wants to be the first to buck the system, it just goes on and on.
I have one, so does our pastor. We are a non affiliated UPC

Pastor carries a upc licence.

So far no district officials have fussed about it.
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Heres whats stunning to me. On this Apostolic Forum with thousands of people no one seems to agree that beards are sin. And YET the doctrine goes on. If not in the form of calling it sin in the guise of "platform standards". When will it end?
It goes on due to the persistence of the legalists who have denied Christ.

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Old 03-09-2010, 05:10 PM
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I have one, so does our pastor. We are a non affiliated UPC

Pastor carries a upc licence.

So far no district officials have fussed about it.
But your church doesn't follow "the look" in other ways either, does it?
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