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04-13-2007, 11:46 AM
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I anxiously await the cry of "remove not the old landmarks!.
Let's all join a monastery or convent. That way no one would ever sin?
This whole separation thing is so Catholic anyway.
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04-13-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
"Freakycons" may have slain their thousands, but liberalism has slain its ten thousands.
For every church you can name that becomes cultic, I just about guarantee you I can name half a dozen that went off the rails doctrinally through compromise.
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Let's delve into a little Biblical History, 2 notable churches come to mind. It seems the apostle Paul spent a large amount of his time dealing with 2 spirits present in the 1st Century church. Shall we compare.
Liberal spirit that tolerated sin=Corinthinan Church
Legalistic/Performance Based Church=Galatian Church
In letters to both churches, Paul commended the Corinthian Church as being a Church of Jesus Christ but then proceeded to correct their errors of doctrine and behavior.
In the latter church the same Apostle said that they had departed from the truth, called them fools and proceeded then to correct their errors of belief and doctrine.
If I were to err, I would surely want to lean towards the Corinthian church.
The Apostle Paul did not struggle with liberalism, his main enemy and still today is the spirit of religion that is manifested in legalism and destroys a walk of faith.
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04-13-2007, 11:54 AM
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Coonskinner, you talked about being a separate people and gave many scriptures to confirm that.
I agree with you about being a separate people. What I don't agree with is those who think the outward appearance is who we are to be separate.
Jesus never mentioned a thing that I can recall about how folks dressed.
However, what HE did define was about our attitudes. Being humble, now that would set us apart, even among ourselves.
Turning the other cheek, now that would set us apart. Who among us is good at doing this? Not I.
I could go on, but I think you get my drift.
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Jesus lived in a modest culture. It wasn't nearly the issue it is for us now.
You will find teaching on outward adornment in the Epistles.
They dealt not only with jews who had the benefit of many generations of exposure to righteous principles, but with gentile converts who had not been taught anything.
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04-13-2007, 11:56 AM
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I anxiously await the cry of "remove not the old landmarks!.
Let's all join a monastery or convent. That way no one would ever sin?
This whole separation thing is so Catholic anyway.
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PP, separation is a Scriptural concept.
Surely you don't argue with that?
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04-13-2007, 11:56 AM
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BOOM, I'm sorry I was a jerk to you.
I was wrong, and I'm sorry.
I do care what you think.
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04-13-2007, 11:57 AM
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Coonskinner
Let's delve into a little Biblical History, 2 notable churches come to mind. It seems the apostle Paul spent a large amount of his time dealing with 2 spirits present in the 1st Century church. Shall we compare.
Liberal spirit that tolerated sin=Corinthinan Church
Legalistic/Performance Based Church=Galatian Church
In letters to both churches, Paul commended the Corinthian Church as being a Church of Jesus Christ but then proceeded to correct their errors of doctrine and behavior.
In the latter church the same Apostle said that they had departed from the truth, called them fools and proceeded then to correct their errors of belief and doctrine.
If I were to err, I would surely want to lean towards the Corinthian church.
The Apostle Paul did not struggle with liberalism, his main enemy and still today is the spirit of religion that is manifested in legalism and destroys a walk of faith.
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Bump!!
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04-13-2007, 11:57 AM
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PP, separation is a Scriptural concept.
Surely you don't argue with that?
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You know I don't.
What I think is wrong is when a group wants to pervert separation into cultic subordination.
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04-13-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by keith4him
Coonskinner
Let's delve into a little Biblical History, 2 notable churches come to mind. It seems the apostle Paul spent a large amount of his time dealing with 2 spirits present in the 1st Century church. Shall we compare.
Liberal spirit that tolerated sin=Corinthinan Church
Legalistic/Performance Based Church=Galatian Church
In letters to both churches, Paul commended the Corinthian Church as being a Church of Jesus Christ but then proceeded to correct their errors of doctrine and behavior.
In the latter church the same Apostle said that they had departed from the truth, called them fools and proceeded then to correct their errors of belief and doctrine.
If I were to err, I would surely want to lean towards the Corinthian church.
The Apostle Paul did not struggle with liberalism, his main enemy and still today is the spirit of religion that is manifested in legalism and destroys a walk of faith.
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Excellent post, Keith.
However, the actual error of the galatians was in going back to the old Law for justification rather than by faith in Christ.
Even the most ultra of cons today are a far cry from there.
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04-13-2007, 12:00 PM
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You know I don't.
What I think is wrong is when a group wants to pervert separation into cultic subordination.
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I have been around a lot more conservatives than you, I daresay, and the extreme you describe is very, very rare. In no way is it widespread.
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04-13-2007, 12:01 PM
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if we err let's err on the mercy side...for He is merciful to those who show mercy...
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