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Old 02-18-2009, 05:08 PM
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Re: Are You Prepared For a Rough Ride in 2009?

You know, people still deny the moon landings, the holocaust, Elvis' death and a plethora of provable historical events. People believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts.

Oh well.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:10 PM
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I still have to believe that God's economy doesn't work the same way the world's economy does. He will take care of His own.
Your prayers must be working! Following are stimulus projects in your area that were part of the bill:

Jackson, TN

  • Widen the highly congested Hollywood Drive from Interstate 40 to 70 By-Pass $4,000,000
  • Intelligent Transportation System which will enhanse the signalization and timing of congested traffic patterns. $2,700,000
  • Stormwater, Resovoir, upgrades $500,000
  • Target Rehab/Replacement Housing Geographic Expansion $750,000
  • Community Services. Build a transitional living facility for women and children that have been adversely affected by alcohol and drug abuse. $500,000
  • Phillips St. Reconstruction Project $325,000
  • Infill property development North Royal Street $300,000
  • Small Business Incubator Development-Chester Street $300,000
  • Single Family Rental Infill Development $200,000
  • Minor/Emergency Repair Program 3 $150,000
  • Downtown/East Jackson Street Lighting Project Expansion $120,000
  • Completion of Anderson Creek Park 4 $75,000
  • Turning Point Safehaven Completion $50,000
  • Day Shelter for Homeless Renovation $30,000
  • Redevelopment and stabalization of blighted downtown areas by constructing office and retail space. $30,000,000
  • Intraoperable communications system for disasters and public safety incidents. $8,000,000
  • Construction of a consolidated EMS Center that would facilitate communications between emergency management, city and county pubic safety entities during critical situations. $7,000,000
  • Visonair Web Based computer system; replace antiquated AS 400; $2,500,000
  • New high school to replace a 50 plus year old school in a very congested area $27,000,000
  • Construction of airport hangers $1,400,000
  • Central office for municipal transit system to supliment new operations center $300,000
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
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and that is about what I am saying. Bad yes. mother of all depressions? no.
Ferd, you have been eternally optimistic about this. I hope you are right. I am frankly very concerned and have been. I haven't seen anything like this before. It just seems so severe.

We have been looking at a house in the country. I am on the fence about buying it. Part of me says yes and part says no. One reason is it is 30 minutes out from work and right now I am 10. I hear gas is going to go up again too.
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You know, we say that, but..........we went out to eat last night and had to wait in line for a long time to get in a restaurant here that's not exactly cheap. I don't think it's really hit people yet.
No. I think we are just twittering around the edges right now.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:29 PM
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Then we are at the halfway mark already.

Ugh.

Ferd, I still think you're in denial, but time tells all.

I think this will be equal to, or worse than, the Great Depression.

I also think this has already socialized our country in a remarkably rapid fashion.
To your point about socialism. I said the very same thing at lunch today. I told a friend that if he had told me one year ago that America would move so swiftly toward Socialism I would have told him he was crazy.

The speed with which huge changes are happening defies comprehension.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:42 PM
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To your point about socialism. I said the very same thing at lunch today. I told a friend that if he had told me one year ago that America would move so swiftly toward Socialism I would have told him he was crazy.

The speed with which huge changes are happening defies comprehension.
God forbid, but what happens if oil goes through the roof, or we experience another attack?

We are very vulnerable, currently.
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If you look at how the 9-11 attack disrupted our economy it is clear that another attack with similar or greater casualties or destruction of infrastructure would be a huge blow.

Even scarier than the economic chaos that would bring is that it could open the door to ratoinalization for instituting martial law and suspending civil rights. That would be bad news for Christians. Especially with liberal Democrats in power.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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If you look at how the 9-11 attack disrupted our economy it is clear that another attack with similar or greater casualties or destruction of infrastructure would be a huge blow.

Even scarier than the economic chaos that would bring is that it could open the door to ratoinalization for instituting martial law and suspending civil rights. That would be bad news for Christians. Especially with liberal Democrats in power.
Could it perhaps be the catalyst for a "New World Order/One World Government" ? I used to get a chuckle at some of the Conspiracy Theory Guys I'd hear, now I'm wondering how much they really know.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:54 PM
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RevDWW,

One thing I have always thought and I have noticed that in the last decade or so the "endtime" preachers have started preaching, is that these big changes that will occur will not be forced on people but will be a logical result of circumstances.

Huge economic, political, and cultural chaos opens the door for a lot of these things. I have seen a lot of little things that seemed crazy when proposed over the last few years that might some day soon be accepted as ratoinal. Among them the idea of taxing those of us in "weatlhy developed nations" with a "world tax" of whch the proceeds would go to support third world nations. I would like to think that goofy idea would still be outright rejected by Americans no matter how far they are moving to the left but who knows.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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