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Nahum · #61 04-06-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Do you think this preacher should have reprimanded parents for wanting their kids to attend secular college over a nonaccredited bc?

I don't think its any of his business.

He put himself over every pastor and parent in attendance.

rrford · #62 04-06-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Do you think this preacher should have reprimanded parents for wanting their kids to attend secular college over a nonaccredited bc?

I don't think its any of his business.

No, I don't think that he had that right. I do think he has every right to encourage young people who feel called to the ministry to attend BC.

Hopefully parents have the welfare of their kids at heart and realize it is the will of God for some of them to enter the ministry and they should not be deterred by seeking other occupations. JMHO.

Nahum · #63 04-06-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

No, I don't think that he had that right. I do think he has every right to encourage young people who feel called to the ministry to attend BC.

Hopefully parents have the welfare of their kids at heart and realize it is the will of God for some of them to enter the ministry and they should not be deterred by seeking other occupations. JMHO.

I have no problem with this.

It's just that he made some of those who have no intention of ministerial occupation feel guilty over not attending bc.

rrford · #64 04-06-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

He put himself over every pastor and parent in attendance.

To be fair, Pastor Poster, we do not have the exact wording of what he said.

Not doubting your take on this, but we all know that context and setting are so important. Imagine taking singular statements by JA and trying to understand them. They make more sense when one was either there or at least can hear the tone of voice and the surrounding words. And ones particualr bias either way can cause one to hear more or less than what was actually said.

Nahum · #65 04-06-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

To be fair, Pastor Poster, we do not have the exact wording of what he said.

Not doubting your take on this, but we all know that context and setting are so important. Imagine taking singular statements by JA and trying to understand them. They make more sense when one was either there or at least can hear the tone of voice and the surrounding words. And ones particualr bias either way can cause one to hear more or less than what was actually said.

I will purchase the cd and transcribe some of the comments pertinent to the conversation. I will post the exact words tomorrow or Sunday evening late.

Felicity · #66 04-06-2007, 04:10 PM

I agree basically/conditionally with the speaker even without being there in the meeting and getting to hear what he said in the context of the whole message.

I think it's great for kids who have the inclination and feel the call of God on their lives or even that fervent desire to shut themselves away in a Bible School setting/environment for a year or two and then they can go on to secular college or university.

I don't regret the 2 years I spent in BC but I do wish sometimes that I had a college degree. It just wasn't meant to be for me. I know I went to BC in the will of God. I wouldn't trade my time there for anything.

When I went I wasn't looking for a mate, had no interest and NO idea in the world I'd marry a man called to ministry. I got the cream of that particular crop -- totally unexpectedly.

God has a plan for our lives!

Just a Shepherd · #67 04-06-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Bible college is the greatest regret of my life. I would have been better served to get an accredited degree that could have helped me financially as a church planter.

I realize I am very, very biased.

In all fairness, it wasn't Bible college that hurt you, it was improper planning. I know I face the same thing as a church planter. The current church planting model that is being advocated, is flawed.

Nahum · #68 04-06-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

In all fairness, it wasn't Bible college that hurt you, it was improper planning. I know I face the same thing as a church planter. The current church planting model that is being advocated, is flawed.

It was NOT improper planning! I did everything I was told to do by my elders.
I drank the kool-aid that every SERIOUS preacher or future pastor needed to attend BC.

This is pushed very hard. As evidenced by the comments from this speaker.

rrford · #69 04-06-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It was NOT improper planning! I did everything I was told to do by my elders.
I drank the kool-aid that every SERIOUS preacher or future pastor needed to attend BC.

This is pushed very hard. As evidenced by the comments from this speaker.

Reread his comments. It was indeed improper planning. Planning based on a flawed concept is improper planning.

Michael Phelps · #70 04-06-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

I would encourage young people to seek God's will for their lives first. Then take whatever route necessary to get the type of education they need to fulfill God's will, Whether it be studying at college, learning a trade, performing an apprenticeship or starting a business.

The idea that everyone "has to go to college" is nonsense. The average pay for an architect in the US is $56,637 yr. The average pay for a level III welder is $52,820. There are plenty of ways to make a good living without spending $35,000 to get a degree.

Trust me, my friend, good architects will make more than 56K per year. Good welders seldom do.

Education in our society is not absolutely necessary, but trust me, many more doors will open before you if you have it.

Gasoline is not necessary to make a car move, but it certainly makes the task easier for the pusher/driver.