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01-12-2009, 08:55 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Innocuous
I was in a service once where the pastor stopped the service and verbally reprimanded the entire church for not being 'worshipy' enough as they filed down the aisles to give their offering. He said they should be singing, and dancing, and acting 'happy' when they gave their offering. He even went so far as to say he was embarrassed by the lack of 'worship' in the giving of the offering. Of course he got what he wanted from most folks. But I had to wonder, isn't the act of giving itself worship? Isn't my joining in faith with my fellow brothers and sisters worship? I decided it was and left the service immediately. It was my last service at that church after attending there for almost eight years.
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The evangelist that got the whole church running once called out a young person that would later become a good friend.
He told him to stand. He looked him up and down and how nice dressed he was. He looked at his shiny shoes and said "Boy look at those shoes. I bet you never danced before. Why don't you dance right now!" and being on the spot as he was....proceeded to do a little jig. Everyone started praising God lol
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 08:56 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Kings Kid
I think the problem in some churches is that they get stuck in a rut of playing the same 15 to 25 worship chrouses to the where the services become predictable and they die a slow and painful death and that's when the worship becomes forced.
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How come people only run when there is music? Im all for it but why can't we worship with out the music too. We can do both...wait on God some.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 08:57 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
I have been in services where my worship wasn't enough if that is what you mean???
I was at a conference where I WAS worshipping and praising and the one leading kept telling me/us to give more and do more.
"Come on, come on you can do better than that" I was told over and over again as if the noise level wasnt loud enough.
It was like we were forced to scream!
It did nothing for the service at all, it fell flat and just seemed like a bunch of noise.
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THAT sounds like the same feller that preaches the magic hair stuff lol
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 08:58 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
I'll just be honest - I have very low tolerance for this kind of stuff. I guess when it happens to they should be prepared to be called out in like manner.
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01-12-2009, 09:03 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
I was in a service where the pastor got frustrated because folks weren't worshiping enough and he told his wife to come from behind the piano and he took her hand and said they were going home.
And he walked out.
Of course the same preacher was not pleased with the fervency of the prayer at a mens prayer meeting and he threw chairs too ... so... To each their own I suppose.
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My Gosh! I didn't know Bobby Knight was Apostolic?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvRO2GE4x4M
This is probably the ONLY video of Bobby Knight at Youtube where he is not cussing every other word. How he can motivate some worship. I am sure some of his kids were praying after he got through with them
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
My daughter was walking down the hall in front of me (we had just shown up) and she was nearly hit. He threw the chairs out the prayer room door into the hall.
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lol...and it was the congregation that needed to worship???
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 09:05 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
If you have ever been under a pastor that operates like this guy does... you know that "saying something" isn't what you do.
Unless you want to be preached for the next 6 months... or until someone else says something... whichever comes first.
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\It's my opinion that guys like that were not called to Pastor. Preach maybe but not pastor a church. It takes a certain character to pastor
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 09:06 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Innocuous
I thought of making a Bobby Knight joke here but figured it was too obvious.
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Great minds
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 09:08 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
BTW I think Bobby once went home too and left the team to play without him the second half
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-12-2009, 09:17 PM
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Re: Forced Worship
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
My Gosh! I didn't know Bobby Knight was Apostolic?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvRO2GE4x4M
This is probably the ONLY video of Bobby Knight at Youtube where he is not cussing every other word. How he can motivate some worship. I am sure some of his kids were praying after he got through with them
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Bobby Knight NOT Apostolic??? I grew up in Indiana from the late 70's till the mid 90's.....he didn't have to be Apostolic...he was god.
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